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	<title>Comments on: Moderate Christians begin to speak up</title>
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		<title>By: Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/08/45498/comment-page-1#comment-126025</link>
		<dc:creator>Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And little old Methodist church ladies can reach people we have no access to...&quot;

Wonderful quote.  I&#039;m told that a little old Catholic church lady who&#039;s friends with my mother recently said to her on the phone (imagine this with a Minnesota accent)...

&quot;Y&#039;know, Joy, I just don&#039;t know why they won&#039;t let those gay people get married.&quot;  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And little old Methodist church ladies can reach people we have no access to&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Wonderful quote.  I&#8217;m told that a little old Catholic church lady who&#8217;s friends with my mother recently said to her on the phone (imagine this with a Minnesota accent)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Y&#8217;know, Joy, I just don&#8217;t know why they won&#8217;t let those gay people get married.&#8221;  :)</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like Pedophile Protector Pederson will eventually empty the pews if they don&#039;t find the accommodation with gays as other sects of the cult have done and are doing.  I think when the baskets come back empty they will do like the Mormons did in 78 and have a new revelation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like Pedophile Protector Pederson will eventually empty the pews if they don&#8217;t find the accommodation with gays as other sects of the cult have done and are doing.  I think when the baskets come back empty they will do like the Mormons did in 78 and have a new revelation.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I think ya&#039;ll just plain need a &quot;like&quot; button on this site.

I was a liberal/moderate Christian years ago and left because I just got tired of arguing with idiots. I began to study things a lot and decided that I didn&#039;t want any part of a religion where belief so often mattered more than practice and where such extreme positions as can exist were tolerated with little dissent. A substantial amount of crazy existed then, too. I had a problem with it then, as I do now.

Thankfully, now that it&#039;s seeped out into the public square there&#039;s some pushback from other Christians.

If I&#039;d seen that when I was going through my divorce from a religious nut I might still be a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I think ya&#8217;ll just plain need a &#8220;like&#8221; button on this site.</p>
<p>I was a liberal/moderate Christian years ago and left because I just got tired of arguing with idiots. I began to study things a lot and decided that I didn&#8217;t want any part of a religion where belief so often mattered more than practice and where such extreme positions as can exist were tolerated with little dissent. A substantial amount of crazy existed then, too. I had a problem with it then, as I do now.</p>
<p>Thankfully, now that it&#8217;s seeped out into the public square there&#8217;s some pushback from other Christians.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;d seen that when I was going through my divorce from a religious nut I might still be a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/08/45498/comment-page-1#comment-125732</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree with you, but I have to pick a nit with you over the word &quot;extremist.&quot; Being in favor of same sex marriage was &quot;extreme&quot; at one point, and the &quot;moderate&quot; position is not always the right one. Giving your slaves Sunday afternoon off may have been the &quot;moderate&quot; position in 1860.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you, but I have to pick a nit with you over the word &#8220;extremist.&#8221; Being in favor of same sex marriage was &#8220;extreme&#8221; at one point, and the &#8220;moderate&#8221; position is not always the right one. Giving your slaves Sunday afternoon off may have been the &#8220;moderate&#8221; position in 1860.</p>
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		<title>By: scotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to point out that moderate christians have been _trying_ to speak out for ages.  It appears that the media is finally starting to admit they exist.
(hey, I started going back to church twelve years ago because I was tired of idiots co-opting my heritage.  Finally we get to hear from the non-idiots!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to point out that moderate christians have been _trying_ to speak out for ages.  It appears that the media is finally starting to admit they exist.<br />
(hey, I started going back to church twelve years ago because I was tired of idiots co-opting my heritage.  Finally we get to hear from the non-idiots!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: MCB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a pastor in grad school who would talk about sin in very specific terms, which is unusual for more moderate/liberal/progressive Christians. He labeled the big ones as racism, sexism, and either homophobia or heteronormativism, depending on how much he wanted to challenge out vocabularies that day.

I know that hearing that preached from the pulpit is a large part of what made me go from &quot;gay rights are civil rights&quot; to &quot;gay rights are a fundamental good that I should defend as part of my faith.&quot; More power to all clergy and leaders who do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a pastor in grad school who would talk about sin in very specific terms, which is unusual for more moderate/liberal/progressive Christians. He labeled the big ones as racism, sexism, and either homophobia or heteronormativism, depending on how much he wanted to challenge out vocabularies that day.</p>
<p>I know that hearing that preached from the pulpit is a large part of what made me go from &#8220;gay rights are civil rights&#8221; to &#8220;gay rights are a fundamental good that I should defend as part of my faith.&#8221; More power to all clergy and leaders who do the same.</p>
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