Comments on: Overview: Three Responses to Mark Regnerus’s Study of Children of Parents In Same-Sex Relationships

By: StraightGrandmother

StraightGrandmother — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:52:13 +0000

I think I am going to post this on all the Regnerus topics on Box Turtle. Let’s say we all work together and make a terrific website where we collect all this information on the Regnerus’ Study.

We crowd source this and everybody helps. I think what is missing is a lot of comments on the research by other Sociologists. We can all take a State and then call all the Universities in that State and speak to Sociologists there and ask them to provide their feedback on the research.

Other people can work on collecting up all the direct quotes from Regnerus.

Oh and shouldn’t we collect up all the places the data is being misreported? I saw for example a quote something like, “Well this study proves that pedophilia is rampant with gays”

And what about a website? Should we buy a domain name or should we use Blogger or Word press or something? If we hosted this separately how much would that cost us in bandwidth if a lot of people visited? Does anybody have idea on this?

Let’s set this up and organize this so it will be real easy for lawyers from our side to have a good reference point to jump off from.

What else? Do you like this idea? Who will help? I don’t mind if this is a part of Box Turtle and they are getting recognition for this. But I do think to do this right it is to big for the few guys at Box Turtle we need a lot more helping hands than just those guys. Whadda think?

By: Reed Boyer

Reed Boyer — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:11:41 +0000

Oh, Straight Grandmother, I do love thee – both for your work here in the BTB comments section as well as over at Pink News.
I’ve no idea of your secret identity, but you may look me up on Facebook any time, since our paths seem to keep crossing and crossing and crossing (while being pretty much on the same page about most things).
Bravos and kudos all around.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:46:34 +0000

Grandmother, I am in awe. Thank you for your take-charge stance. I left him a note on the site he mentioned in which I take him to task for moving ahead with what he acknowledges to be inadequate data sets in a charged political landscape where interested parties are skimming down to “we win” headlines. Pressure should be placed on the publication to withdraw this research, especially given its shortcomings, and its failure to really achieve what he set out to measure.

By: CapeCodder

CapeCodder — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:36:51 +0000

“Your accusations are getting more heated, and I’m afraid unless we can correspond civilly, I may have to call a conclusion to this. ”

Wow, there was nothing in the post that came across as rude, un-civil, antagonistic or the like.

Just some very pointed questions and comments.

He should read the comments on the NOM blog, or NRO Corner or others to see what really nasty comments are like!

Mr. (non)Scientist: you are one fragile dude.

By: Nayda

Nayda — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:04:31 +0000

I’ve read the Marks Study and I’m thinking Mr. Burroway is hoping no one else will or they would know he’s blowing smoke.
If you’re thinking Mr. Burroway is sounding pretty good then you’d better take time to read the Marks brief yourself. It’s not that difficult to read and is very enlightening on how flawed the 2005 brief by The American Psychological Association is. Even one of experts supporting the idea that children fare as well being raised by same sex parents, admitted the 2005 study flawed. Read Marks Paper for yourself. Don’t depend on Mr. Burrows to be objective.

By: Jay Jonson

Jay Jonson — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:19:16 +0000

Thank you, Jim, for your excellent work on this issue. And thank you StraightGrandmother for your tenacity and energy in holding Regnerus’s feet to the fire.

By: StraightGrandmother

StraightGrandmother — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:11 +0000

Let’s move the conversation over to the next story on this
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/12/45598

By: Marcus

Marcus — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:59:16 +0000

I think it’s unnecessary to bring up the researcher’s personal views; his work stands or falls on its own merits. It is not inherently unethical to research (or to fund research) into a subject on which one is opinionated; what matters is constructing a scientifically valid study.

In this case, the issue is not whether he wanted his research to discredit parenting by same-sex couples; it is that his research is being used to do just that despite not supporting that view.

By: Palmer

Palmer — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:20:55 +0000

Ben in Oakland, your praise for SGM is right on except for one small correction. As she is a woman it should be bravissima!

By: Tafter

Tafter — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:20:24 +0000

The problem I have with all of this is that, despite some great data collection and numerous caveats in the publication, Mark Regnerus is running around selling this study as proof of something sinister about same sex parents. Try to square his measured statements above with his quote in LiveScience:

“The study found “that the scholarly and popular consensus that there are no notable differences between the children who grew up with a mother or father in a same-sex relationship and those whose (heterosexual) mother and father were and are still married is a fiction,” study researcher Mark Regnerus, a sociologist at the University of Texas, told LiveScience. “