<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: I Don&#8217;t Care Who Financed Prof. Regnerus</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794</link>
	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 00:59:53 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: StraightGrandmother</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-127241</link>
		<dc:creator>StraightGrandmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-127241</guid>
		<description>I think I am going to post this on all the Regnerus topics on Box Turtle. Let&#039;s say we &lt;b&gt;all work together&lt;/b&gt; and make a terrific website where we collect all this information on the Regnerus&#039; Study.

We crowd source this and everybody helps. I think what is missing is a lot of comments on the research by other Sociologists. We can all take a State and then call all the Universities in that State and speak to Sociologists there and ask them to provide their feedback on the research. 

Other people can work on collecting up all the direct quotes from Regnerus.

Oh and shouldn&#039;t we collect up all the places the data is being misreported? I saw for example a quote something like, &quot;Well this study proves that pedophilia is rampant with gays&quot;

And what about a website? Should we buy a domain name or should we use Blogger or Word press or something? If we hosted this separately how much would that cost us in bandwidth if a lot of people visited? Does anybody have idea on this? 

Let&#039;s set this up and organize this so it will be real easy for lawyers from our side to have a good reference point to jump off from. 

What else? Do you like this idea? Who will help? I don&#039;t mind if this is a part of Box Turtle and they are getting recognition for this. But I do think to do this right it is to big for the few guys at Box Turtle we need a lot more helping hands than just those guys. Whadda think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I am going to post this on all the Regnerus topics on Box Turtle. Let&#8217;s say we <b>all work together</b> and make a terrific website where we collect all this information on the Regnerus&#8217; Study.</p>
<p>We crowd source this and everybody helps. I think what is missing is a lot of comments on the research by other Sociologists. We can all take a State and then call all the Universities in that State and speak to Sociologists there and ask them to provide their feedback on the research. </p>
<p>Other people can work on collecting up all the direct quotes from Regnerus.</p>
<p>Oh and shouldn&#8217;t we collect up all the places the data is being misreported? I saw for example a quote something like, &#8220;Well this study proves that pedophilia is rampant with gays&#8221;</p>
<p>And what about a website? Should we buy a domain name or should we use Blogger or Word press or something? If we hosted this separately how much would that cost us in bandwidth if a lot of people visited? Does anybody have idea on this? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s set this up and organize this so it will be real easy for lawyers from our side to have a good reference point to jump off from. </p>
<p>What else? Do you like this idea? Who will help? I don&#8217;t mind if this is a part of Box Turtle and they are getting recognition for this. But I do think to do this right it is to big for the few guys at Box Turtle we need a lot more helping hands than just those guys. Whadda think?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Blondmyk</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-127086</link>
		<dc:creator>Blondmyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-127086</guid>
		<description>Well Said!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Said!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-127077</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-127077</guid>
		<description>Just wondering: How many &quot;studies&quot; have not been published - and thus we never heard about them - because the funders didn&#039;t get the results they wanted? Do some funders then typically move on to someone else that may provide the desired results? Are some &quot;scientists&quot; sleazy enough to sign an upfront guarantee that they will provide the results the funder is paying for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering: How many &#8220;studies&#8221; have not been published &#8211; and thus we never heard about them &#8211; because the funders didn&#8217;t get the results they wanted? Do some funders then typically move on to someone else that may provide the desired results? Are some &#8220;scientists&#8221; sleazy enough to sign an upfront guarantee that they will provide the results the funder is paying for?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Leopold</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-127011</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-127011</guid>
		<description>http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/children-sex-parents-fare-16526175

Regnerus&#039;s latest distortions. I&#039;m beginning to think this fellow is not as innocent as he appears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/children-sex-parents-fare-16526175" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/children-sex-parents-fare-16526175</a></p>
<p>Regnerus&#8217;s latest distortions. I&#8217;m beginning to think this fellow is not as innocent as he appears.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-126918</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-126918</guid>
		<description>Neon Genisis, the birther conspiracy is believed by a lot fewer people than it would be if it had never been debunked.  I just don&#039;t believe that debunking a lie spreads it.  If you leave the stage and let them have it to themselves then what they say will be widely perceived as fact.

I&#039;m also in the both camp, debunk the lies and point out that anti-gay liars are responsible for the study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neon Genisis, the birther conspiracy is believed by a lot fewer people than it would be if it had never been debunked.  I just don&#8217;t believe that debunking a lie spreads it.  If you leave the stage and let them have it to themselves then what they say will be widely perceived as fact.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also in the both camp, debunk the lies and point out that anti-gay liars are responsible for the study.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: StraightGrandmother</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-126870</link>
		<dc:creator>StraightGrandmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-126870</guid>
		<description>ChiMaxx,
Yes you nailed it.
~SGM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChiMaxx,<br />
Yes you nailed it.<br />
~SGM</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: chiMaxx</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-126858</link>
		<dc:creator>chiMaxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 03:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-126858</guid>
		<description>Rob:
I&#039;m definitely of the both/and camp. It is important to show first, as has much of the commentary here by you and others, that the study is deceptive on its face. Only then is it fruitful to point out that those who commissioned the study had an agenda, that the attempt to deceive or at least to muddy the conversation was done with intent.

To do the second without the first is pure ad hominem, and is unconvincing except to those who already agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob:<br />
I&#8217;m definitely of the both/and camp. It is important to show first, as has much of the commentary here by you and others, that the study is deceptive on its face. Only then is it fruitful to point out that those who commissioned the study had an agenda, that the attempt to deceive or at least to muddy the conversation was done with intent.</p>
<p>To do the second without the first is pure ad hominem, and is unconvincing except to those who already agree with you.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-126843</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-126843</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t think it needs to be one approach OR the other, but can be one approach AND the other.

A related aspect is that many (if not most), of us are very busy, and don&#039;t have time to wade into the tedious details of a complicated &quot;study.&quot; So we look for shortcuts and then arrive at our conclusions based on who we trust. I trust BTB and StraightGrandmother, so I arrived at a conclusion even though I only skimmed through the articles and comments. Many times in the past I&#039;ve become aware of a &quot;study,&quot; and then arrived at a conclusion based on the knowledge of who funded it, and the fact that I didn&#039;t trust them. It&#039;s certainly not ideal nor foolproof, but I think it&#039;s a shortcut that works for many of us most of the time.

And to make things worse, I imagine that our supposed knowledge of funders many just be the tip of the iceberg. I don&#039;t doubt that the real identities of many funders are kept hidden via some deceptive tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it needs to be one approach OR the other, but can be one approach AND the other.</p>
<p>A related aspect is that many (if not most), of us are very busy, and don&#8217;t have time to wade into the tedious details of a complicated &#8220;study.&#8221; So we look for shortcuts and then arrive at our conclusions based on who we trust. I trust BTB and StraightGrandmother, so I arrived at a conclusion even though I only skimmed through the articles and comments. Many times in the past I&#8217;ve become aware of a &#8220;study,&#8221; and then arrived at a conclusion based on the knowledge of who funded it, and the fact that I didn&#8217;t trust them. It&#8217;s certainly not ideal nor foolproof, but I think it&#8217;s a shortcut that works for many of us most of the time.</p>
<p>And to make things worse, I imagine that our supposed knowledge of funders many just be the tip of the iceberg. I don&#8217;t doubt that the real identities of many funders are kept hidden via some deceptive tactics.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Neon Genesis</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-126837</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon Genesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-126837</guid>
		<description>But one of the board members of NOM, Luis Tellez, is the president of Witherspoon Institute, which did fund the study.  You have to really be stretching it to claim this is nothing more than sheer coincidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But one of the board members of NOM, Luis Tellez, is the president of Witherspoon Institute, which did fund the study.  You have to really be stretching it to claim this is nothing more than sheer coincidence.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/15/45794/comment-page-1#comment-126825</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=45794#comment-126825</guid>
		<description>Neon Genesis

Although Robert George is affiliated with both, the study was not funded by NOM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neon Genesis</p>
<p>Although Robert George is affiliated with both, the study was not funded by NOM.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
