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	<title>Comments on: Texas Republicans No Longer Want to Imprison Gays! (Not officially, at least)</title>
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		<title>By: Pacal</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/26/46087/comment-page-1#comment-128659</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All I seem to hear about are horror stories about the government run Canadian and British medical systems.&quot;

The Canadian system is still much cheaper than than the American and here we hear all sorts of horror stories about people bankruped by the American system. HMO&#039;s and Insurance companies refusing to cover people for example. Yep it is obvious your listening to &quot;objective&quot; media reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All I seem to hear about are horror stories about the government run Canadian and British medical systems.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Canadian system is still much cheaper than than the American and here we hear all sorts of horror stories about people bankruped by the American system. HMO&#8217;s and Insurance companies refusing to cover people for example. Yep it is obvious your listening to &#8220;objective&#8221; media reports.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neon Genesis,  to the republicans a flip flop is only wrong if the Democrats do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neon Genesis,  to the republicans a flip flop is only wrong if the Democrats do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Neon Genesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neon Genesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Romney is he lies about everything.  I don&#039;t understand how Republicans were able to make a huge deal about John Kerry flip flopping on one whole issue yet they&#039;ll blindly vote for Romney who even flip flops on whether or not he likes salmon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Romney is he lies about everything.  I don&#8217;t understand how Republicans were able to make a huge deal about John Kerry flip flopping on one whole issue yet they&#8217;ll blindly vote for Romney who even flip flops on whether or not he likes salmon.</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will NEVER vote Republican.

Fuck Texas. Fuck Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will NEVER vote Republican.</p>
<p>Fuck Texas. Fuck Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: tristram</title>
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		<dc:creator>tristram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A vote for anyone other than Obama this November is a vote to reverse the significant progress that this country has made recently toward equal rights for lgbt citizens. Romney may indeed be lying about his determination to embed a ban on same-sex marriage in the U.S. Constitution, about his antipathy to ENDA, about his love of DOMA and his preference for DADT, and about a zillion other policies as well. 

But he is not lying about his determination to nominate judges to the Federal courts, and the SCOTUS in particular, who will find a rationale to reverse or erode the cases that have opened the way for the great expansion of gay rights over the past several decades in this country. In fact, he has made as firm a commitment as the man can make to his church, to NOM and to all the most reactionary religious fundamentalists in his party base to appoint just such judges. And its likely that he would be in a position to appoint as many as three justices to SCOTUS in his first term.

All serious analysis of the equality cases (DOMA, Prop 2, etc.) moving through the Federal courts right now presumes that there are four votes for and against each of them, with Anthony Kennedy as the &#039;swing vote.&#039; But if Ginsburg (or Kennedy, himself)  is replaced by another Scalia/Thomas/Roberts type, there will be nothing to swing for several decades to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A vote for anyone other than Obama this November is a vote to reverse the significant progress that this country has made recently toward equal rights for lgbt citizens. Romney may indeed be lying about his determination to embed a ban on same-sex marriage in the U.S. Constitution, about his antipathy to ENDA, about his love of DOMA and his preference for DADT, and about a zillion other policies as well. </p>
<p>But he is not lying about his determination to nominate judges to the Federal courts, and the SCOTUS in particular, who will find a rationale to reverse or erode the cases that have opened the way for the great expansion of gay rights over the past several decades in this country. In fact, he has made as firm a commitment as the man can make to his church, to NOM and to all the most reactionary religious fundamentalists in his party base to appoint just such judges. And its likely that he would be in a position to appoint as many as three justices to SCOTUS in his first term.</p>
<p>All serious analysis of the equality cases (DOMA, Prop 2, etc.) moving through the Federal courts right now presumes that there are four votes for and against each of them, with Anthony Kennedy as the &#8216;swing vote.&#8217; But if Ginsburg (or Kennedy, himself)  is replaced by another Scalia/Thomas/Roberts type, there will be nothing to swing for several decades to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, California is not a certainly not a battleground state.  It is just is one messed up state when it comes to financial matters.  I heard that the city of Stockton is declaring bankruptcy.  I&#039;m afraid it is the first of many cities that will have to do the same in order to get out from under their overly generous public pension promises made when the economy was rolling along like gangbusters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, California is not a certainly not a battleground state.  It is just is one messed up state when it comes to financial matters.  I heard that the city of Stockton is declaring bankruptcy.  I&#8217;m afraid it is the first of many cities that will have to do the same in order to get out from under their overly generous public pension promises made when the economy was rolling along like gangbusters.</p>
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		<title>By: StraightGrandmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>StraightGrandmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay Rights = Human Rights
Human Rights = Gay Rights

First and foremost FOR ME is getting sexual minorities treated as Equal United States Citizens by their government. Everything else after that is secondary. And for those who disagree do they speak and vote from a position of privilege?

Privilege meaning they do not have anybody that they want to marry. OR they are already legally married to a same gender spouse. Are they living in a State that HAS anti discriminatory laws to protect sexual minorities? Perhaps living in a State that provides for strong Legal Civil Unions? In other words you speak from a position of privilege so you can go on to look at other issues. 

My vote goes for leaders who will represent the people who live in those 30 States where it is 100% Completely Legal to say,

&quot;Helen told me you are a Dyke, sorry we don&#039;t want Dykes here, go to HR and pick up your Paycheck&quot; 

&quot;Although you had the best references and the highest Credit Score you are not going to get the apartment, my current tenants don&#039;t want to live next door to trannies.&quot;

&quot;Fellas yeah you are going to have to leave, we don&#039;t serve Faggots here&quot;

We risk in our community the votes of the gay &quot;haves&quot; vs the votes of the gay &quot;have nots.&quot; If you already are protected from the above you feel that you are perfectly free to look to other issues that impact you. Lower taxes for example. In my opinion this is simply selling out all the other sexual minorities who are living in the States who are &quot;Have Nots.&quot; It is selfish.  

In my opinion everyone should vote en block for candidates who WILL implement polices to make sexual minorities equal to heterosexuals. Once that has been achieved, we are all free to go separate ways. And that is my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay Rights = Human Rights<br />
Human Rights = Gay Rights</p>
<p>First and foremost FOR ME is getting sexual minorities treated as Equal United States Citizens by their government. Everything else after that is secondary. And for those who disagree do they speak and vote from a position of privilege?</p>
<p>Privilege meaning they do not have anybody that they want to marry. OR they are already legally married to a same gender spouse. Are they living in a State that HAS anti discriminatory laws to protect sexual minorities? Perhaps living in a State that provides for strong Legal Civil Unions? In other words you speak from a position of privilege so you can go on to look at other issues. </p>
<p>My vote goes for leaders who will represent the people who live in those 30 States where it is 100% Completely Legal to say,</p>
<p>&#8220;Helen told me you are a Dyke, sorry we don&#8217;t want Dykes here, go to HR and pick up your Paycheck&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Although you had the best references and the highest Credit Score you are not going to get the apartment, my current tenants don&#8217;t want to live next door to trannies.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Fellas yeah you are going to have to leave, we don&#8217;t serve Faggots here&#8221;</p>
<p>We risk in our community the votes of the gay &#8220;haves&#8221; vs the votes of the gay &#8220;have nots.&#8221; If you already are protected from the above you feel that you are perfectly free to look to other issues that impact you. Lower taxes for example. In my opinion this is simply selling out all the other sexual minorities who are living in the States who are &#8220;Have Nots.&#8221; It is selfish.  </p>
<p>In my opinion everyone should vote en block for candidates who WILL implement polices to make sexual minorities equal to heterosexuals. Once that has been achieved, we are all free to go separate ways. And that is my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hue-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re too glass half full - Texas TeaParty/GOP reminds me of the old saw: do you want to be hanged for murder or for bank robbery? They may have dropped one or two anti-gay provisions BUT it doesn&#039;t mean they won&#039;t enact them (and certainly doesn&#039;t mean they don&#039;t continue to believe them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re too glass half full &#8211; Texas TeaParty/GOP reminds me of the old saw: do you want to be hanged for murder or for bank robbery? They may have dropped one or two anti-gay provisions BUT it doesn&#8217;t mean they won&#8217;t enact them (and certainly doesn&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t continue to believe them).</p>
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		<title>By: Hue-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hue-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles. Unlike the British NHS, Canadian medicare is NOT government run. Wiki: &quot;According to Dr. Albert Schumacher, former president of the Canadian Medical Association, an estimated 75 percent of Canadian health care services are delivered privately, but funded publicly.&quot;

I linked to this survey at Americablog this a.m. http://www.cma.ca/multimedia/CMA/Content_Images/Inside_cma/Media_Release/2011/reportcard/2011National-Report-Card_en.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles. Unlike the British NHS, Canadian medicare is NOT government run. Wiki: &#8220;According to Dr. Albert Schumacher, former president of the Canadian Medical Association, an estimated 75 percent of Canadian health care services are delivered privately, but funded publicly.&#8221;</p>
<p>I linked to this survey at Americablog this a.m. <a href="http://www.cma.ca/multimedia/CMA/Content_Images/Inside_cma/Media_Release/2011/reportcard/2011National-Report-Card_en.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cma.ca/multimedia/CMA/Content_Images/Inside_cma/Media_Release/2011/reportcard/2011National-Report-Card_en.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desiree

You identified my Presidential choice. And, as rarely happens, I&#039;ll be voting for someone rather than against the alternative. 

Actually I don&#039;t object to Obama - though I am no fan of Obamacare (my premiums immediately skyrocketed) - and, heresy of heresies, I could accept Romney over many other alternatives (his anti-gay advocacy is glaringly fake and limited to one issue that seems to have disappeared now that he has won the primary).  So i just have no hate to dish out this year. 

But Johnson&#039;s my man this go round. Which, as I live in California, will have zero impact on anything. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desiree</p>
<p>You identified my Presidential choice. And, as rarely happens, I&#8217;ll be voting for someone rather than against the alternative. </p>
<p>Actually I don&#8217;t object to Obama &#8211; though I am no fan of Obamacare (my premiums immediately skyrocketed) &#8211; and, heresy of heresies, I could accept Romney over many other alternatives (his anti-gay advocacy is glaringly fake and limited to one issue that seems to have disappeared now that he has won the primary).  So i just have no hate to dish out this year. </p>
<p>But Johnson&#8217;s my man this go round. Which, as I live in California, will have zero impact on anything. </p>
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