Comments on: What Questions Do You Have About Exodus?

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 03:18:09 +0000

I am still monitoring this thread. Whenever someone leaves a comment, I automatically get an email. Feel free to keep asking. I’ll try to cover as many of them as I can.

By: Smith

Smith — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:23:52 +0000

Burroway-

As you haven’t commented on this thread in awhile, I don’t know if you are attempting to get answers to the questions posted here, but if you are, then here are 2 from me:

- I’d be interested in any updated information on Exodus’s financial crisis, which was exposed by ExGayWatch about 6 months ago. I predicted that their shift in tone and focus would exacerbate the crisis, and I’d be curious to hear how things are going.

- From the attendees, I’d be interested to hear how they are dealing with the cognitive dissonance that must result from the organizational decline of Exodus and other ex-gay groups. In other words, how do they square the idea that this is a workable path for homosexuals when, instead of growing and thriving, their movement is in decline after 4 decades of hard work.

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:49:31 +0000

(a) How genuinely are Exodus becoming an internal Christian ministry? How much to they care that I, a happy non-Christian, am gay? How much to they care that Christians in gay-accepting churches are gay? Some of what they’ve said suggests that they now exist to serve only those who are unhappy in their homosexuality, and they will happily ignore those of us who do not need their services. But I’m not sure I believe that.

(b) How careful are they to be non-coercive? If a young teenager is forced to attend Exodus, will they accept that? What about more subtle forms of coercion? Of course, right-wing Christian culture is entirely built on coercion and shaming, so I wouldn’t imagine Exodus would object to that. They should.

TRiG.

By: Mark F.

Mark F. — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 03:42:06 +0000

“My question for Exodus I would like answered would be, if you now accept that your homosexuality is something you’re born with and you can’t change, what justification is there in still condemning acting on it?”

The only justification they offer is that you are going against God’s will and will be punished with unhappiness and hell.

By: Frank

Frank — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 04:09:13 +0000

Just who decided that the bible is the clearing house for everybody’s actions. Many of those who read it use it as a battering ram anyway.
Just one man’s opinion.

By: Mark F.

Mark F. — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 01:47:05 +0000

The correct answers

1.) Was I born this way?

Undetermined.

2.) Can I be Gay and Christian?

Yes.

3.) Is Change Possible?

Never say never, but it’s really not likely.

4.) What does the Bible say?

Depends of your interpretation. Jesus said nothing about homosexuality.

By: Lee

Lee — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 00:16:48 +0000

Also: yes, you can be a shoplifter and a Christian as long as you’re very, very sorry after you slip. And for godsakes please don’t start a shoplifter pride movement and start claiming God approves.
Lee

By: Lee

Lee — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 00:07:01 +0000

Hello Kevin,
As to your questions above, I think you would get the same old shit on a new doily.
Homosexuality is just one of the many temptations humans are heir to–like shoplifting, I suppose. Just don’t do it, it’s wrong; it may feel natural to you, but don’t steal those panties. Ask Jesus to help you not to do it.
There, all fixed. Next issue.
Lee

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:59:50 +0000

Katherine asked: “Exodus sounds like exit with a biblical gloss?”

Actually, “EXIT” (EX-gay Intervention Team, founded in 1974) was the name of our ministry at Melodyland Christian Center in Anaheim, CA — the ministry that hosted the first Exodus conference in September of 1976.

And yes, it did give the larger “coalition of ministries” that “biblical gloss…” We had delusions of grandeur — and really thought that we would lead many to that “promised land” of orientation change.

By: Neon Genesis

Neon Genesis — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:40:02 +0000

My question for Exodus I would like answered would be, if you now accept that your homosexuality is something you’re born with and you can’t change, what justification is there in still condemning acting on it? And please don’t let them get away with the “Some people are born gay like some people are born with a predisposition to being alcoholic” excuse.