Comments on: Charisma Republishes 2004 Culture War Article by Alan Chambers

By: Gene in L.A.

Gene in L.A. — Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:52:05 +0000

Nicolosi having something to do with this makes too much sense not to have at least an element of truth. As someone who became aware of him and his machinations when I worked at The Advocate in the early 90s, this sort of sabotage is just what I’d expect.

By: TampaZeke

TampaZeke — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:55:16 +0000

Wow, Chambers is getting a taste of how dishonest and vile the ex-gay industry can be. An industry that he lead for a very long time. When it’s all said and done he’ll probably find more compassion and acceptance with the people he worked so long and so hard to destroy (even if he didn’t see it that way) than from the people he’s been in bed with for the last 25+ years.

By: johnson

johnson — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:34:36 +0000

I’d wager Nicolosi had something to do with it. He’s mighty pissed at Chambers right now. And as anyone familiar with him knows, he has major anger issues.

By: Fg68at

Fg68at — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:23:43 +0000

One CMS sytem works with the creation date, the other with the update date. To edit single facts (except typos) in an old article is not a good thing.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:14:47 +0000

This just in from Alan: “Charisma Mag edited an 8 year old article I wrote and republished it as if I’d written it in 2012. I have asked them to remove the post and they have complied. Sorry for this confusion.”

I’m glad he took action, but I don’t think it’s enough to say, “Sorry for this confusion.” I think he needs to say, “Sorry I ever wrote it. Here’s how my thinking has changed since then.” Then ask Charisma to print it.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:03:37 +0000

Stephen, Alan insisted it be removed.

Michael, I think he most definitely will be contacting Charisma

By: Stephen

Stephen — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:33:28 +0000

Seems to have been taken down. Links don’t work and it doesn’t appear on Charisma’s ‘front page’.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:21:15 +0000

Lindoro suggested: “This might be the moment of Alan’s greatest need and we might need to eat our pride and come to his defense, whether he deserves it ir not.”

Alan can defend himself. He can call and write to this magazine and demand that they print a retraction. He once clearly believed these things. He wrote the original article. If he has changed since then, he needs to spell out why he once believed these things — and why he no longer does.

I don’t imagine Alan is happy about this coming out right now, but it’s part of the burden of leadership to deal with these things. I look forward to Alan’s response…

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:20:31 +0000

Ben In Oakland

That is certainly the question of the hour.

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:19:57 +0000

Update: I just got off the phone with a nice lady at Charisma who didn’t want to give her name. She did say that they had gotten a couple of calls about the article and were “looking into it.” She also appeared to be aware that the 2004 article had been updated to include the status of marriage equality in “six states, plus Washington, D.C.” since 2004. She only said they were “looking into that also.”