They aren’t about to give it up for one nano-second. It’s all about the Money, folks.

Anyone who believes that is seriously underestimating them. These people are true believers, and they would continue doing what they’re doing even if it doesn’t earn them a red cent. I’ve looked at financial records for Exodus and NARTH. NARTH is particularly cash poor. Exodus is in considerably better shape, but they aren’t exactly swimming in money. I’ve always been baffled by this thinking, that if it was only about money, then they would go away if the money went away. They won’t. These people have dedicated their very lives to do what they’re doing. And none of them are living in mansions.

Underestimating the intensity of our opponents is something we have been doing far, far too often. And we’ve paid at the polls time and time again because of it.

Blaming Satan for the turn off ex gays can be, is more of that infuriating dodge.
I even remarked that some Christians are SO overbearing, that’s why people are turning away.

I had to say that experience is a greater teacher than faith. And some people are getting to know better about gay folks than the say so that anti gay and ex gay groups represent.

This splinter effect happening with Exodus now, is interesting to watch. Perhaps they’ll be so splintered, they’ll be dust. And very soon.

Funny thing about people, they tend to be too complex for two dimensional cookie cutter labels. So yes, indeed we all need to think of each other as more fully human. And we gay folk do need to do our part.

Of course the other funny thing about people is that they LOVE two dimensional cookie cutter labels. So it’s no surprise that while exodus leadership moved away from such thinking about sexuality and faith and gay people, a rival had to arise to provide for some good ol stereotypes. Or that many gay folk insist its a ploy.

I hope, however, that in time we all will seek to understand each other more than we object to each other. But it won’t be easy on either side. There’s a lot of pain, resentment, and presumption that both sides have felt and experienced and while we’re getting there, we aren’t all yet ready to join hands and sing kumbiyah

I just left the following on Warren’s blog, hope you don’t mind posting it here as well:

“I think if people who are truly interested in understanding the movement as a whole will see that the “paradigm” split isn’t just a two way one or two issue affair. There is a huge complex nature to this movement with many many different characters and beliefs.”

It’s always been that way and those who consider themselves “watch-dog” groups have really been lazy in not picking up on that well before now.