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	<title>Comments on: Catholic diocese: Pedophile Mansion must be protected from gay marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,

&quot;Tammany Hall with a cross on the roof&quot;. That is brilliant. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p>
<p>&#8220;Tammany Hall with a cross on the roof&#8221;. That is brilliant. </p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a life-long church goer and currently work in the church. I have somewhat defended them up until now as not being actively malicious or at worst caught in a web not necessarily of their own making, but this really does put the nail in the coffin for me. Dear heavens. Our diocesan offices are nothing more than Tammany Hall with a cross on the roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a life-long church goer and currently work in the church. I have somewhat defended them up until now as not being actively malicious or at worst caught in a web not necessarily of their own making, but this really does put the nail in the coffin for me. Dear heavens. Our diocesan offices are nothing more than Tammany Hall with a cross on the roof.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The outcome of any legal case is unclear and such a case could make new law.  Although MA does prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, it is also burdened with a disturbing legal precedent from the MA Supreme Judicial Court from the early 1990s.  The SJC held that a religious landlord who denied a rental to an unmarried heterosexual couple was exempt from the state&#039;s antidiscrimination law.  The religious motivation behind the discrimination meant that it constituted an &quot;exercise of religion&quot; and thus fell outside the scope of the law, held the SJC.  Other courts have come out the opposite way.  

It is an unusual quirk that many liberals, including the Obama-appointee to the US Supreme Court Elena Kagan,  are sympathetic to this notion that religiously motivated acts are an &quot;exercise of religion&quot; that can&#039;t be restricted or regulated except for compelling reasons.  The SJC certainly felt this way 20 years ago.  Anyway, if the current SJC holds to its prior holding, the church will prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The outcome of any legal case is unclear and such a case could make new law.  Although MA does prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, it is also burdened with a disturbing legal precedent from the MA Supreme Judicial Court from the early 1990s.  The SJC held that a religious landlord who denied a rental to an unmarried heterosexual couple was exempt from the state&#8217;s antidiscrimination law.  The religious motivation behind the discrimination meant that it constituted an &#8220;exercise of religion&#8221; and thus fell outside the scope of the law, held the SJC.  Other courts have come out the opposite way.  </p>
<p>It is an unusual quirk that many liberals, including the Obama-appointee to the US Supreme Court Elena Kagan,  are sympathetic to this notion that religiously motivated acts are an &#8220;exercise of religion&#8221; that can&#8217;t be restricted or regulated except for compelling reasons.  The SJC certainly felt this way 20 years ago.  Anyway, if the current SJC holds to its prior holding, the church will prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm... in MA this may be legally actionable.  It&#039;s not legal to abrogate a contract due to anti-gay animus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; in MA this may be legally actionable.  It&#8217;s not legal to abrogate a contract due to anti-gay animus.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doodie:  That&#039;s not Catholicism.  That&#039;s actually a practice from one of the Afro-Caribbean religions.  (Santeria, I think, but don&#039;t quote me on that.)  I know good friends who have done this and swear by it.

Not sure who pre-packaged it into a marketable product, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doodie:  That&#8217;s not Catholicism.  That&#8217;s actually a practice from one of the Afro-Caribbean religions.  (Santeria, I think, but don&#8217;t quote me on that.)  I know good friends who have done this and swear by it.</p>
<p>Not sure who pre-packaged it into a marketable product, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Doodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a fun display of Catholic Gullabity.   The Real Estate market has come to this?   Burying upside-down plastic Saint statues in their lawn in the hopes that it will increase the chance of a quick home sale.  Many Catholics actually believe this!    http://doodiepants.com/2012/07/17/st-joseph-sell-my-home/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a fun display of Catholic Gullabity.   The Real Estate market has come to this?   Burying upside-down plastic Saint statues in their lawn in the hopes that it will increase the chance of a quick home sale.  Many Catholics actually believe this!    <a href="http://doodiepants.com/2012/07/17/st-joseph-sell-my-home/" rel="nofollow">http://doodiepants.com/2012/07/17/st-joseph-sell-my-home/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The “why” of their decision is shocking, but not surprising.&quot;

No, Timothy, the &quot;why&quot; of their decision is not shocking.  What would have been shocking is if the Catholic Hierarchy involved had actually stated that they wished to keep the property so they could molest more boys, but to keep it out of the hands of the gays?  Not shocking or surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The “why” of their decision is shocking, but not surprising.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Timothy, the &#8220;why&#8221; of their decision is not shocking.  What would have been shocking is if the Catholic Hierarchy involved had actually stated that they wished to keep the property so they could molest more boys, but to keep it out of the hands of the gays?  Not shocking or surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The jokes practically write themselves on this one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The jokes practically write themselves on this one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish them the best of luck in protecting the Pedophile mansion.

I wasn&#039;t so lucky. Gay marriage destroyed my last house and raped my shed.</description>
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<p>I wasn&#8217;t so lucky. Gay marriage destroyed my last house and raped my shed.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, I will say here just what I said in one of the other threads, when you have established a long history of lying to prop up an unjust and unfair institution you find yourself lying when the truth sounds better!

Yet another example to add to the list I provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, I will say here just what I said in one of the other threads, when you have established a long history of lying to prop up an unjust and unfair institution you find yourself lying when the truth sounds better!</p>
<p>Yet another example to add to the list I provided.</p>
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