Comments on: Long lines and pickets at Hollywood Chick-Fil-A

By: occono

occono — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 01:34:13 +0000

^ Yes. The CFA Day wasn’t proposed over the Mayors. And the LGBT community’s boycott was not calling for it (at least not in any significant number), but I’ve seen people either believing or pretending like it was.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 11:03:12 +0000

Reed, Huckabee announced “Chick-Fl-A Appreciation Day” on July 24th. At that point, the mayor of Boston was the only Mayor who had threatened free speech by exercising his own. I find it baffling that anyone would attempt to pretend that the other day was about anything other than antipathy to gay people. But the internet is a strange place. I guess if my own siblings had gone, I would struggle to find a way to justify it, too. Now, the dumb grandstanding mayors did for the first time actually give the anti-gays an actual good argument. You can’t ban a restaurant based on the owner’s political views. They overstepped. But Huckabee’s day wasn’t about that. His stated reason was “the hate speech and intolerant bigotry towards Chick-Fil-A”. It would’ve happened if the mayors had said nothing and everyone who went still would’ve gone, and those uncomfortable with being seen as anti-gay still would’ve mumbled platitudes about freedom of speech. I know this because this is hardly the first time something like this has happened. The “freedom of speech” thing gets hauled out every single time their speech is criticized. It’s as predictable as “if you’re so tolerant, why don’t you tolerate my intolerance”? As for “SSM”, I’ve never seen it anywhere but on anti-equality blogs. I’ve seen “same sex marriage” written out, but not the abbreviated “SSM” or “SSA” which I always theorized was because writing out an acronym would not force them to write the word “sex”.

By: JohnAGJ

JohnAGJ — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:08:12 +0000

Reed: Beats me, I tend to ignore the Huckster. It wouldn’t surprise me given the man’s record on gay rights issues.

By: JohnAGJ

JohnAGJ — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:04:51 +0000

Ryan: Well 2 of them are much older than I am so given the age difference perhaps you could make an issue out of it, but even so I think I happen to know my own brother and sister far better than most folks in this world. As for “SSM”, I’ve seen this used as a shorthand for “same-sex marriage” on any number of gay blogs for a few years now. Since when did it suddenly become verboten?

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:01:45 +0000

While I try to not set a rule for myself but use the term that is the most accurate, my personal preference is “equality”. That’s the issue to me, not “marriage equality”, which (to me) suggests that some areas of equality are up for greater debate than others.

But when the context calls for it, I’ll use “same-sex marriage” (if, for example, a law bans marriage between people of the same sex) or “gay marriage” (if talking about what gets conservatives’ undies in a bunch).

I think it’s wiser than coming up with a rule to stick by (I’m not a big fan of strict rules, be they Biblical or politically correct).

Perhaps the funniest example of PC nonsense was when I was chatting with a friend about the movie Beautiful Thing. He was saying how impressed he was with “the African American girl” who sang Mama Cass songs. The movie is set in Britain.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:38:55 +0000

Reed said ““SSM?” I don’t use it, myself. “Marrige equality” seems to be “the term.” Because “same-SEX marriage” just plays into the “it’s all about sex with those queers and those breeders game.””.

I sometimes use the term myself but in light of the issue Reed has raised I suggest those of us who sometimes use that term because we feel it is more explicit than “marriage equality” us the term “same gender marriage” instead.

By: Reed

Reed — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:54:44 +0000

JohnAGJ – maybe my time line is wrong, but didn’t Huckabee announce this “Appreciation Day” BEFORE “those bad wicked big city mayors done tried to stomp all over the little people’s religious freedom?”

“SSM?” I don’t use it, myself. “Marrige equality” seems to be “the term.” Because “same-SEX marriage” just plays into the “it’s all about sex with those queers and those breeders game.”

In any case, it has much the same quaint, inaccurate quality as “sexual preference.”

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:03:22 +0000

Ryan,

A lot of people write SSM as shorthand for same-sex marriage.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 02:33:19 +0000

Sorry John, no you don’t. And you gave yourself away with the NOM approved terminology “SSM”.

By: occono

occono — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 00:14:30 +0000

I think the mayors may have had some rationale: Chick-Fil-A has been sued for employment discrimination and has policies that will likely conflict with the employment laws of the states. But these lawsuits are pending, and the politicians statements weren’t focused on it, so their statements became completely about the reaction to Cathy’s interview, as far as I can tell. But I’m really not bothered to defend them.

But the idea that the best thing to do to is to go to CFA to retaliate against those politicians……