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	<title>Comments on: Arsonist Destroys Ohio Church</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I see on here how there are people saying they don&#039;t be leave it well I live in South Bloomingville. Yes the people of this area would do something like that, this area is a very anti-gay area. The welcome sign for G.L.B.T. has been torn down many times, I have seen people spiting on the church, and even throwing rocks at it. If you do not want to trust the story then trust someone that lives here. Oh and to answer the Questions yes an investigation was made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I see on here how there are people saying they don&#8217;t be leave it well I live in South Bloomingville. Yes the people of this area would do something like that, this area is a very anti-gay area. The welcome sign for G.L.B.T. has been torn down many times, I have seen people spiting on the church, and even throwing rocks at it. If you do not want to trust the story then trust someone that lives here. Oh and to answer the Questions yes an investigation was made.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sad for the apparently lovely people who lost their place of worship.

However, I&#039;m actually with Tristam on this one.  After visiting the church&#039;s website, my &quot;caution&quot; switch is tripped, too.  Don&#039;t want to share my reasons.  Call it intuition. 

NPR and AP are reporting the church burned and it was arson, and repeating the pastor&#039;s speculation.  Did they send a team to this community to investigate, to interview residents to find out if they really were &quot;upset&quot; about the church&#039;s orientation?  I doubt it.  Until the arsonist is identified, how do we know the pastor&#039;s speculation is the truth about motive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sad for the apparently lovely people who lost their place of worship.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m actually with Tristam on this one.  After visiting the church&#8217;s website, my &#8220;caution&#8221; switch is tripped, too.  Don&#8217;t want to share my reasons.  Call it intuition. </p>
<p>NPR and AP are reporting the church burned and it was arson, and repeating the pastor&#8217;s speculation.  Did they send a team to this community to investigate, to interview residents to find out if they really were &#8220;upset&#8221; about the church&#8217;s orientation?  I doubt it.  Until the arsonist is identified, how do we know the pastor&#8217;s speculation is the truth about motive?</p>
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		<title>By: MLouise</title>
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		<dc:creator>MLouise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tristram, It&#039;s now being reported on an NPR station via Associated Press.  That&#039;s about as reputable a source as you are going to get. http://woub.org/2012/08/20/hocking-co-church-fire-ruled-arson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tristram, It&#8217;s now being reported on an NPR station via Associated Press.  That&#8217;s about as reputable a source as you are going to get. <a href="http://woub.org/2012/08/20/hocking-co-church-fire-ruled-arson" rel="nofollow">http://woub.org/2012/08/20/hocking-co-church-fire-ruled-arson</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony Perkins believes the SPLC share the blame for the shooting outside FRC offices because of they&#039;re on SPLC&#039;s list of hate organisations.

Given FRC&#039;s rhetoric against LGBT people, presumably Tony feels we can take away the conclusion that FRC is complicit in this arson attack. He&#039;s already spelled out the logic of his reasoning so he doesn&#039;t need to make any explicit statement.

Perkin&#039;s logic leads us to understand that FRC is dedicated to promoting violence against LGBT people all the time. Tony takes credit for every assault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Perkins believes the SPLC share the blame for the shooting outside FRC offices because of they&#8217;re on SPLC&#8217;s list of hate organisations.</p>
<p>Given FRC&#8217;s rhetoric against LGBT people, presumably Tony feels we can take away the conclusion that FRC is complicit in this arson attack. He&#8217;s already spelled out the logic of his reasoning so he doesn&#8217;t need to make any explicit statement.</p>
<p>Perkin&#8217;s logic leads us to understand that FRC is dedicated to promoting violence against LGBT people all the time. Tony takes credit for every assault.</p>
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		<title>By: tristram</title>
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		<dc:creator>tristram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of those stories that trips my &#039;caution&#039; switch. I know it&#039;s often not possible, but it would be great to have more facts and background before the news goes viral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of those stories that trips my &#8216;caution&#8217; switch. I know it&#8217;s often not possible, but it would be great to have more facts and background before the news goes viral.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments left on the news stories your page linked to were disgusting, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments left on the news stories your page linked to were disgusting, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at Pam Spaulding&#039;s blog, she&#039;s reporting that Tony Perkins complained on Fox to Bill O&#039;Reilly, that the media ignored the shooting at FRC.

  I mean, she&#039;s right. That&#039;s a jaw dropping whopper.
Pam has pictures of the mob of media that showed up for a press conference that Perkins called.

 First of all, the FRC shooting wasn&#039;t nearly as tragic as other recent shootings.
Not even close.
Second, the perpetrator is in custody and will duly be held accountable.

    End of story.
Literally, there isn&#039;t much left to say about what happened.
Or what should happen next.
Matt Barber, at TownHall is similarly milking this for all it&#039;s worth too.

  I think it&#039;s so offensive, that they are using this as if their hands are clean and pure of ever engaging in defamation or lies that puts gay people at risk.
  They didn&#039;t even comment on or say anything about the impact of the shooting on the Sikh community, to the extent they are painting themselves as victims of everyone.

     I went to a vigil at a local gurdwara, and got some information regarding hate crimes against Sikhs, especially in the last 15 years.
 It&#039;s the shame of this nation, what hate crimes are and the USUAL targets.
And Perkins, et al, are so impossibly selfish as to think this issue at FRC is worse than what other people have been dealt.
That he lies about the coverage of the FRC shooting is beyond disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at Pam Spaulding&#8217;s blog, she&#8217;s reporting that Tony Perkins complained on Fox to Bill O&#8217;Reilly, that the media ignored the shooting at FRC.</p>
<p>  I mean, she&#8217;s right. That&#8217;s a jaw dropping whopper.<br />
Pam has pictures of the mob of media that showed up for a press conference that Perkins called.</p>
<p> First of all, the FRC shooting wasn&#8217;t nearly as tragic as other recent shootings.<br />
Not even close.<br />
Second, the perpetrator is in custody and will duly be held accountable.</p>
<p>    End of story.<br />
Literally, there isn&#8217;t much left to say about what happened.<br />
Or what should happen next.<br />
Matt Barber, at TownHall is similarly milking this for all it&#8217;s worth too.</p>
<p>  I think it&#8217;s so offensive, that they are using this as if their hands are clean and pure of ever engaging in defamation or lies that puts gay people at risk.<br />
  They didn&#8217;t even comment on or say anything about the impact of the shooting on the Sikh community, to the extent they are painting themselves as victims of everyone.</p>
<p>     I went to a vigil at a local gurdwara, and got some information regarding hate crimes against Sikhs, especially in the last 15 years.<br />
 It&#8217;s the shame of this nation, what hate crimes are and the USUAL targets.<br />
And Perkins, et al, are so impossibly selfish as to think this issue at FRC is worse than what other people have been dealt.<br />
That he lies about the coverage of the FRC shooting is beyond disgusting.</p>
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