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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/21/47926/comment-page-1#comment-137432</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy do they give marriage WAY more credit than it deserves.  Newer studies are showing that this so-called stability (especially economic benefits) from marriage is highly variable when comparing white middle class marriages to marriages between working class people of color.  In some cases showing it to do more harm then good economically.   But then, leave it to a group of predominantly white people to ignore that bit of detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy do they give marriage WAY more credit than it deserves.  Newer studies are showing that this so-called stability (especially economic benefits) from marriage is highly variable when comparing white middle class marriages to marriages between working class people of color.  In some cases showing it to do more harm then good economically.   But then, leave it to a group of predominantly white people to ignore that bit of detail.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/21/47926/comment-page-1#comment-137284</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TampaZeke siad, 
&lt;blockquote&gt;There again it’s pretty clear that Timothy has a much stronger stomach for conservative attacks on gays than he does for gay attacks on conservatives. Apparently even when the former are bogus and the latter are true.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know about Timothy, but that applies perfectly to B. Daniel Blatt, the most prolific blogger at GayPatriot. It applies to the vast majority of their commenters, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TampaZeke siad, </p>
<blockquote><p>There again it’s pretty clear that Timothy has a much stronger stomach for conservative attacks on gays than he does for gay attacks on conservatives. Apparently even when the former are bogus and the latter are true.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about Timothy, but that applies perfectly to B. Daniel Blatt, the most prolific blogger at GayPatriot. It applies to the vast majority of their commenters, too.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good thing that Timothy wasn&#039;t the LCR representative for the RNC platform consultation!  If his feelings are so delicate as to send him screaming from this thread based on one statement that was essentially true I can&#039;t imagine that he would have lasted more than one minute in the room with the kinds of lying, hateful assaults that Mr. Cooper was subjected to.  There again it&#039;s pretty clear that Timothy has a much stronger stomach for conservative attacks on gays than he does for gay attacks on conservatives.  Apparently even when the former are bogus and the latter are true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good thing that Timothy wasn&#8217;t the LCR representative for the RNC platform consultation!  If his feelings are so delicate as to send him screaming from this thread based on one statement that was essentially true I can&#8217;t imagine that he would have lasted more than one minute in the room with the kinds of lying, hateful assaults that Mr. Cooper was subjected to.  There again it&#8217;s pretty clear that Timothy has a much stronger stomach for conservative attacks on gays than he does for gay attacks on conservatives.  Apparently even when the former are bogus and the latter are true.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/21/47926/comment-page-1#comment-137239</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, the GOP protestations of wanting to protect marriage for the sake of children wouldn&#039;t ring quite so hollow if 60% of the party&#039;s Presidential nominees in the past 30 years hadn&#039;t abandoned their wives for younger, hotter women. It wouldn&#039;t ring quite so hollow if the party held its own candidates for President - including both Rudy Guiliani and Newt Gingrich - to the same sexual and moral standards with which its platform expects the rest of us to comply. And it really wouldn&#039;t ring so hollow if the very organization that wrote the &quot;marriage pledge&quot; signed by every significant GOP candidate (including Gingrich, who currently is married to a woman he paid to have sex with him for 6 years while married to another woman) hadn&#039;t been founded by a woman who had a child out of wedlock, who nonetheless expects her marriage to her second baby daddy to be treated the same as a &quot;traditional marriage.&quot; 

The hypocrisy would be funny if it weren&#039;t so appalling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, the GOP protestations of wanting to protect marriage for the sake of children wouldn&#8217;t ring quite so hollow if 60% of the party&#8217;s Presidential nominees in the past 30 years hadn&#8217;t abandoned their wives for younger, hotter women. It wouldn&#8217;t ring quite so hollow if the party held its own candidates for President &#8211; including both Rudy Guiliani and Newt Gingrich &#8211; to the same sexual and moral standards with which its platform expects the rest of us to comply. And it really wouldn&#8217;t ring so hollow if the very organization that wrote the &#8220;marriage pledge&#8221; signed by every significant GOP candidate (including Gingrich, who currently is married to a woman he paid to have sex with him for 6 years while married to another woman) hadn&#8217;t been founded by a woman who had a child out of wedlock, who nonetheless expects her marriage to her second baby daddy to be treated the same as a &#8220;traditional marriage.&#8221; </p>
<p>The hypocrisy would be funny if it weren&#8217;t so appalling.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben In Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/21/47926/comment-page-1#comment-137235</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben In Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m aware of that, Mark. I&#039;m not as much interested in the history as i am in the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m aware of that, Mark. I&#8217;m not as much interested in the history as i am in the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/21/47926/comment-page-1#comment-137232</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The one that says that enshrining antigay prejudice into our constitution, re-writing the 3/5 of a person provision with a new victim, is a GOOD idea?&quot;

The Southern slaveholders wanted slaves counted as full persons for purposes of Congressional representation. The 3/5 provision was a compromise with the free states, who didn&#039;t want slaves counted at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The one that says that enshrining antigay prejudice into our constitution, re-writing the 3/5 of a person provision with a new victim, is a GOOD idea?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Southern slaveholders wanted slaves counted as full persons for purposes of Congressional representation. The 3/5 provision was a compromise with the free states, who didn&#8217;t want slaves counted at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/21/47926/comment-page-1#comment-137231</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Perkins? He had a sex change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Perkins? He had a sex change?</p>
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		<title>By: Coxhere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coxhere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Miss Perkins writes planks for the Repub Party and he is also the leader of a certified, hate group.  Hum.  Seems to me, then, that the Repub Party is now a certifiable, hate group as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Miss Perkins writes planks for the Repub Party and he is also the leader of a certified, hate group.  Hum.  Seems to me, then, that the Repub Party is now a certifiable, hate group as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Esperando.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Esperando.</p>
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		<title>By: esperando</title>
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		<dc:creator>esperando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pyria Lynn

Here it is: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council#cite_note-HR1064-22

The FRC said it opposes the resolution (that condemned the death penalty in proposed Ugandad anti-sodomy legislation)&quot;to remove sweeping and inaccurate assertions that homosexual conduct is internationally recognized as a fundamental human right.&quot;

If gay people don&#039;t have a right to private, consensual sexual conduct, then any government is therefore within its rights to criminalize that conduct and punish it however they see fit, including with death.  FRC&#039;s post-hoc and unverified explanation of their opposition to the house resolution posits a distinction without a difference, in other words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pyria Lynn</p>
<p>Here it is: </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council#cite_note-HR1064-22" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council#cite_note-HR1064-22</a></p>
<p>The FRC said it opposes the resolution (that condemned the death penalty in proposed Ugandad anti-sodomy legislation)&#8221;to remove sweeping and inaccurate assertions that homosexual conduct is internationally recognized as a fundamental human right.&#8221;</p>
<p>If gay people don&#8217;t have a right to private, consensual sexual conduct, then any government is therefore within its rights to criminalize that conduct and punish it however they see fit, including with death.  FRC&#8217;s post-hoc and unverified explanation of their opposition to the house resolution posits a distinction without a difference, in other words.</p>
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