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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Susan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Susan.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/23/47982/comment-page-1#comment-137627</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is far worse than a pittance.  That adage of good writing:  &quot;Show, don&#039;t tell.&quot;  Social conservatives have, for a long time now, reversed it.  By telling, you can avoid showing.  If you put it into your platform that you respect everybody&#039;s dignity, if you say that you love the sinner but hate the sin, then you don&#039;t actually have to do those things.  You can point and say, &quot;But look what we said!  You can&#039;t say we don&#039;t respect you!&quot;

Even when none of their actions actually impart dignity on others.  The very same section is saying that same-sex marriage is morally degenerate.  They&#039;re *saying* they respect the dignity of same-sex couples, and then acting like we are responsible for the downfall of society.  That isn&#039;t an improvement.  Not even a tiny one.  It&#039;s an attempt to distract, to divert the discussion from their actual policies and positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is far worse than a pittance.  That adage of good writing:  &#8220;Show, don&#8217;t tell.&#8221;  Social conservatives have, for a long time now, reversed it.  By telling, you can avoid showing.  If you put it into your platform that you respect everybody&#8217;s dignity, if you say that you love the sinner but hate the sin, then you don&#8217;t actually have to do those things.  You can point and say, &#8220;But look what we said!  You can&#8217;t say we don&#8217;t respect you!&#8221;</p>
<p>Even when none of their actions actually impart dignity on others.  The very same section is saying that same-sex marriage is morally degenerate.  They&#8217;re *saying* they respect the dignity of same-sex couples, and then acting like we are responsible for the downfall of society.  That isn&#8217;t an improvement.  Not even a tiny one.  It&#8217;s an attempt to distract, to divert the discussion from their actual policies and positions.</p>
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		<title>By: MattNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and then we&#039;d have to do without our highly-enjoyable, &quot;Email of the Day&quot; entries...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and then we&#8217;d have to do without our highly-enjoyable, &#8220;Email of the Day&#8221; entries&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MattNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not individual Republicans run on it or not, it is used as a banner for the GOP.  I&#039;m in Central Florida at the moment and practically have to drive with my eyes closed for all of the disgusting, hateful billboards on every major road.  And you can bet that no one who cares is going to pay any attention to one little, mousy line in it when it has all of the other hate-filled crap in it--whether explicit or implicit.

That said, I am willing to extend an olive branch to the LCRs for this milquetoast line--AS LONG AS they do not endorse the ticket.  If they do, then they are no better than GOProud, and phrases like &quot;Uncle Tom&quot; will abound.

That said, the GOP platform is mostly window-dressing on both sides of the spectrum.  

The Anti-Choice plank has been on the GOP platform since 1973.  If abortion (and everything to do with us) were to become 100% illegal tomorrow, there would be tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of unemployed right-wing hacks, mostly in Washington, DC.

Anti-Choice, Inc. (like Anti-Gay, Inc.--with MUCH overlapping) needs their foil in order to keep the dough rolling in.  As long as the ones doing the real work passing laws pay lip service and homage to the RW whackos, they can keep getting funded and the leaders of the whackos can keep making six and seven figures and buying their third and fourth homes (and keep their mistresses and gay lovers on the side).  But they know that the second the taps run dry, their gravy train is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not individual Republicans run on it or not, it is used as a banner for the GOP.  I&#8217;m in Central Florida at the moment and practically have to drive with my eyes closed for all of the disgusting, hateful billboards on every major road.  And you can bet that no one who cares is going to pay any attention to one little, mousy line in it when it has all of the other hate-filled crap in it&#8211;whether explicit or implicit.</p>
<p>That said, I am willing to extend an olive branch to the LCRs for this milquetoast line&#8211;AS LONG AS they do not endorse the ticket.  If they do, then they are no better than GOProud, and phrases like &#8220;Uncle Tom&#8221; will abound.</p>
<p>That said, the GOP platform is mostly window-dressing on both sides of the spectrum.  </p>
<p>The Anti-Choice plank has been on the GOP platform since 1973.  If abortion (and everything to do with us) were to become 100% illegal tomorrow, there would be tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of unemployed right-wing hacks, mostly in Washington, DC.</p>
<p>Anti-Choice, Inc. (like Anti-Gay, Inc.&#8211;with MUCH overlapping) needs their foil in order to keep the dough rolling in.  As long as the ones doing the real work passing laws pay lip service and homage to the RW whackos, they can keep getting funded and the leaders of the whackos can keep making six and seven figures and buying their third and fourth homes (and keep their mistresses and gay lovers on the side).  But they know that the second the taps run dry, their gravy train is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark F: I completely understand the reality of THIS Congress, but the next Congress will have an influx of Tea baggers.  And as such, I have not the faith you do of things remaining as they are.  We see all types of rhetoric out of the GOP that goes against the recent votes, but that doesn&#039;t mean they will not try.  I believe they will, and as such, intend to vote in a manner that will not allow them the possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark F: I completely understand the reality of THIS Congress, but the next Congress will have an influx of Tea baggers.  And as such, I have not the faith you do of things remaining as they are.  We see all types of rhetoric out of the GOP that goes against the recent votes, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they will not try.  I believe they will, and as such, intend to vote in a manner that will not allow them the possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOP Senators voting to repeal DADT:

Richard Burr of North Carolina, Mark Kirk of Illinois, John Ensign of Nevada, Scott Brown of Massachusetts, George Voinovich of Ohio, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both of Maine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOP Senators voting to repeal DADT:</p>
<p>Richard Burr of North Carolina, Mark Kirk of Illinois, John Ensign of Nevada, Scott Brown of Massachusetts, George Voinovich of Ohio, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both of Maine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have said &quot;reinstatement&quot; in my post, not &quot;repeal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have said &#8220;reinstatement&#8221; in my post, not &#8220;repeal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert:

You forget how many GOP Senators voted to repeal DADT. Even if the GOP gains a slim Senate majority, the votes aren&#039;t there for repeal. And there is the filibuster, so you would really need 60 votes to repeal. Not gonna happen. DADT is dead, Romney knows it&#039;s dead, the GOP knows it&#039;s dead, and an overwhelming majority of the public wants it to stay dead. Republicans won&#039;t beat a dead horse. I guarantee it.

I suggest you familiarize yourself more with the actual reality of the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert:</p>
<p>You forget how many GOP Senators voted to repeal DADT. Even if the GOP gains a slim Senate majority, the votes aren&#8217;t there for repeal. And there is the filibuster, so you would really need 60 votes to repeal. Not gonna happen. DADT is dead, Romney knows it&#8217;s dead, the GOP knows it&#8217;s dead, and an overwhelming majority of the public wants it to stay dead. Republicans won&#8217;t beat a dead horse. I guarantee it.</p>
<p>I suggest you familiarize yourself more with the actual reality of the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then I guess we disagree.

I will continue to support those who work hard for the progress that you mock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I guess we disagree.</p>
<p>I will continue to support those who work hard for the progress that you mock.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You chose to &quot;bless their little hearts&quot; instead.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I most certainly did. Because if that is a measure of progress, it has to be the most microscopic measurement I&#039;ve ever encountered. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You chose to &#8220;bless their little hearts&#8221; instead.</p></blockquote>
<p>I most certainly did. Because if that is a measure of progress, it has to be the most microscopic measurement I&#8217;ve ever encountered. </p>
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