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	<title>Comments on: FRC seeks to refute that they are a hate group by illustrating that they are</title>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/23/48023/comment-page-1#comment-137641</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aydin, I&#039;m sorry for what you suffered as well.  It sounds like you&#039;ve reached some peace on it, but if youbhaven&#039;t, i would urge you to do so. 

Unfortunately, this is another illustration that the single biggest vector for sexual abuse is access, which is why about 75% ofthe time, the child knows the molester, who is half the time the father or step father or father surrogate. 

I&#039;ve known only two gay men in my life who were molested as children. One was my late partner, who like you, was molested by his father, who also molested his older sister. The other one was a gay man who was raped repeatedly by his father who wanted to show him what being a faggot would get him. He had made his peace with it, but would have nothing to do with dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aydin, I&#8217;m sorry for what you suffered as well.  It sounds like you&#8217;ve reached some peace on it, but if youbhaven&#8217;t, i would urge you to do so. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is another illustration that the single biggest vector for sexual abuse is access, which is why about 75% ofthe time, the child knows the molester, who is half the time the father or step father or father surrogate. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known only two gay men in my life who were molested as children. One was my late partner, who like you, was molested by his father, who also molested his older sister. The other one was a gay man who was raped repeatedly by his father who wanted to show him what being a faggot would get him. He had made his peace with it, but would have nothing to do with dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry no one has talked about the &quot;special preference&quot; the FRC thinks multi-national gay couples are receiving. Is he referring to the easement of the application of DOMA in these cases? As far as I know, this still only applies to those who are legally married, in which case the only thing &#039;special&#039; about the application is the &quot;special preference&quot; DOMA gives to legally married gay couples by breaking them up when their straight counterparts would be allowed to stay together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry no one has talked about the &#8220;special preference&#8221; the FRC thinks multi-national gay couples are receiving. Is he referring to the easement of the application of DOMA in these cases? As far as I know, this still only applies to those who are legally married, in which case the only thing &#8216;special&#8217; about the application is the &#8220;special preference&#8221; DOMA gives to legally married gay couples by breaking them up when their straight counterparts would be allowed to stay together.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aydin,

Priya Lynn is correct. Your response illustrated the danger of not considering the fact that there are always some new readers here who wouldn&#039;t know that I&#039;m gayer than gay.

I&#039;m so sorry about your horrific childhood. You must be a very strong person to have been able to move on and thrive. I hope your four siblings are doing well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aydin,</p>
<p>Priya Lynn is correct. Your response illustrated the danger of not considering the fact that there are always some new readers here who wouldn&#8217;t know that I&#8217;m gayer than gay.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sorry about your horrific childhood. You must be a very strong person to have been able to move on and thrive. I hope your four siblings are doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aydin,

I&#039;m sorry to hear about the abuse.  It&#039;s sickening and I hope you have made peace with your past.

However, if by &quot;extreme actions&quot; you are hinting at violence, please know that at BTB we oppose violence.  We do NOT advocate for actions of that sort nor do we allow others to advocate for violence at this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aydin,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear about the abuse.  It&#8217;s sickening and I hope you have made peace with your past.</p>
<p>However, if by &#8220;extreme actions&#8221; you are hinting at violence, please know that at BTB we oppose violence.  We do NOT advocate for actions of that sort nor do we allow others to advocate for violence at this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aydin, I&#039;m sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered,  I hope the effects will lessen with time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aydin, I&#8217;m sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered,  I hope the effects will lessen with time.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/23/48023/comment-page-1#comment-137521</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aydin, Richard Rush was mocking the &quot;family&quot; &quot;research&quot; council with the type of things they believe, he doesn&#039;t believe that himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aydin, Richard Rush was mocking the &#8220;family&#8221; &#8220;research&#8221; council with the type of things they believe, he doesn&#8217;t believe that himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Aydin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aydin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Sir Andrew.  There are five of us, three boys and two girls.  My &quot;straight&quot; father repeatedly raped all of us for years and years.  I have two step-children (my gay partner&#039;s children) and three grand-children.  I have never molested them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Sir Andrew.  There are five of us, three boys and two girls.  My &#8220;straight&#8221; father repeatedly raped all of us for years and years.  I have two step-children (my gay partner&#8217;s children) and three grand-children.  I have never molested them.</p>
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		<title>By: Aydin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aydin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Persecution from people like you Mr. Rush?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Persecution from people like you Mr. Rush?</p>
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		<title>By: Aydin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aydin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time for LGBT persons to take actions against those that continue to deny us complete equal rights and continue to slander us.  If it means extreme actions, such as that used against many of our fallen, then so be it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time for LGBT persons to take actions against those that continue to deny us complete equal rights and continue to slander us.  If it means extreme actions, such as that used against many of our fallen, then so be it!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because we believe in our hearts that gay people should not exist, or at least not reveal their existence, it doesn&#039;t mean we hate them. It actually means we love them because we don&#039;t want to see anyone having to suffer persecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because we believe in our hearts that gay people should not exist, or at least not reveal their existence, it doesn&#8217;t mean we hate them. It actually means we love them because we don&#8217;t want to see anyone having to suffer persecution.</p>
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