Comments on: Babeu wins sheriff nomination http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 25 May 2013 02:47:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: pax58 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138129 pax58 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 02:25:06 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138129 I love how this article left out some veoy important parts of this man's history: known associations with extreme right wing Nazy oriented groups; etc. The so called hit piece by the New Times pointed out the hyprocracy of politician putting alot of Mexican hate out there when he was dating a man who was in violation of his immigration status and possiablity used that problem to black male said boyfriend when he started to expose him. I for one will not support someone just because they are gay who promotes hate in order to get ahead. I saw the profile before it was taken down, like most on that site, it listed is dick size as well as his preference as a top. One might say he has a right to be on that sight, one might also think it less than smart to be on that sight with that information when you are a public figure. A hook up sight is a hook up sight, gay or straight, if you are a politician, you might want to find your physical intimacy in another way. Mr. Heinz I think lost his bid to a congressional seat in large part because of his social association with this right wing bigot and his helping him get "border" money when his county is no where near the border. I love how this article left out some veoy important parts of this man’s history: known associations with extreme right wing Nazy oriented groups; etc. The so called hit piece by the New Times pointed out the hyprocracy of politician putting alot of Mexican hate out there when he was dating a man who was in violation of his immigration status and possiablity used that problem to black male said boyfriend when he started to expose him. I for one will not support someone just because they are gay who promotes hate in order to get ahead. I saw the profile before it was taken down, like most on that site, it listed is dick size as well as his preference as a top. One might say he has a right to be on that sight, one might also think it less than smart to be on that sight with that information when you are a public figure. A hook up sight is a hook up sight, gay or straight, if you are a politician, you might want to find your physical intimacy in another way. Mr. Heinz I think lost his bid to a congressional seat in large part because of his social association with this right wing bigot and his helping him get “border” money when his county is no where near the border.

]]> By: David Waite http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138096 David Waite Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:43:29 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138096 <strong>"Maybe the other candidates were worse. Maybe those shirtless pics won him a whole new legion of fans. Who knows?"</strong> Maybe the overreach by <em>The New Times,</em> with its drumbeat of unproven accusations of abuse of power and threats against a lover, its calling shirtlessness pornographic and its success in forcing Babeu out of the congressional race was so resented by his Arizona constituents that they voted for Babeu as a backlash against the trashing he (and they) received. I'm a liberal who has always voted for the more liberal candidate in a race, which means that I nearly always voted for the Democrat, and I've been doing so for 49 years. I was so irritated by the piling on, and by the reporting of an ex-lover's charges as if they were proven facts, I came very close to calling relatives there to recommend they vote for him. “Maybe the other candidates were worse. Maybe those shirtless pics won him a whole new legion of fans. Who knows?”

Maybe the overreach by The New Times, with its drumbeat of unproven accusations of abuse of power and threats against a lover, its calling shirtlessness pornographic and its success in forcing Babeu out of the congressional race was so resented by his Arizona constituents that they voted for Babeu as a backlash against the trashing he (and they) received.

I’m a liberal who has always voted for the more liberal candidate in a race, which means that I nearly always voted for the Democrat, and I’ve been doing so for 49 years. I was so irritated by the piling on, and by the reporting of an ex-lover’s charges as if they were proven facts, I came very close to calling relatives there to recommend they vote for him.

]]> By: Dave H http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138081 Dave H Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:54:13 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138081 I'm happy to see that the fact that he is now openly gay did not deter people from voting for him. Actually, Arizona has a pretty good record for re-electing openly gay candidates (Jim Kolbe, Neil Giuliano, Ken Cheuvront, to name three). However, during the course of all this mess, a lot of cases of abuse of power and taxpayer money came to light, and for these reasons, I would think that the citizens of Pinal County might be less inclined to re-elect him. Maybe the other candidates were worse. Maybe those shirtless pics won him a whole new legion of fans. Who knows? I’m happy to see that the fact that he is now openly gay did not deter people from voting for him. Actually, Arizona has a pretty good record for re-electing openly gay candidates (Jim Kolbe, Neil Giuliano, Ken Cheuvront, to name three).

However, during the course of all this mess, a lot of cases of abuse of power and taxpayer money came to light, and for these reasons, I would think that the citizens of Pinal County might be less inclined to re-elect him.

Maybe the other candidates were worse. Maybe those shirtless pics won him a whole new legion of fans. Who knows?

]]> By: Mark F. http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138078 Mark F. Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:36:33 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138078 I favor a much more liberal immigration policy, maybe even something close to open borders, but how exactly does wanting the current immigration laws enforced mean that you hate Mexicans? Does Obama hate Mexicans since he has already deported more than George Bush? I'm thinking that this issue is not going to stop Jim from voting for Obama. I favor a much more liberal immigration policy, maybe even something close to open borders, but how exactly does wanting the current immigration laws enforced mean that you hate Mexicans? Does Obama hate Mexicans since he has already deported more than George Bush? I’m thinking that this issue is not going to stop Jim from voting for Obama.

]]> By: Jim Burroway http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138070 Jim Burroway Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:21:53 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138070 It just goes to prove what I've often said about Arizona. They may hate teh gays a whole lot here, but they hate teh Meskins' a whole lot worse. It just goes to prove what I’ve often said about Arizona. They may hate teh gays a whole lot here, but they hate teh Meskins’ a whole lot worse.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138061 Priya Lynn Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:48:11 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138061 Timothy said "The New Times is plenty bitter about Babeu’s win.". I didn't detect any bitterness in the link you gave. Timothy said “The New Times is plenty bitter about Babeu’s win.”.

I didn’t detect any bitterness in the link you gave.

]]> By: Ben Mathis http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138058 Ben Mathis Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:42:16 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138058 Has any legal matters surrounding the alleged deportation and blackmailing aspect been solved? Because there seemed to be some deep seated hypocrisy involved (unsurprising from a republican) surrounding being "tough on immigration" while bending favors for his lover. I noticed that not only did you gloss over that aspect in your rush to fellate this gay conservative, but managed to get in a dig at the former boyfriend whose identity should rightly have been shielded while the case was on going. Has any legal matters surrounding the alleged deportation and blackmailing aspect been solved? Because there seemed to be some deep seated hypocrisy involved (unsurprising from a republican) surrounding being “tough on immigration” while bending favors for his lover.

I noticed that not only did you gloss over that aspect in your rush to fellate this gay conservative, but managed to get in a dig at the former boyfriend whose identity should rightly have been shielded while the case was on going.

]]> By: TampaZeke http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/08/29/48162/comment-page-1#comment-138057 TampaZeke Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:42:05 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48162#comment-138057 Who could have possibly been behind and orchestrated an anti-gay/anti-immigrant twofer smear? WHO, I wonder? Who could have possibly been behind and orchestrated an anti-gay/anti-immigrant twofer smear?

WHO, I wonder?

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