Comments on: Michigan marriage challenge update http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/09/07/48513 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 25 May 2013 02:47:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Regan DuCasse http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/09/07/48513/comment-page-1#comment-139319 Regan DuCasse Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:23:49 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48513#comment-139319 That's the funny thing about the idealizations the anti gay are advertising, and what reality requires. The biological moms and dads, who are given all the freedom to have as many children as they want without gov't interference or restraint, are the ones lacking in consideration of the conditions under which they choose to have those children or prevent their conception. Hence, in just about every state, CPS and foster services are overwhelmed with needful children. NOM, FRC and so on, have little influence when it comes to having hets punished or restricted in any way. They don't even advocate for much easier, cheaper and accessible birth control. Quite the opposite in fact. They want to punish gay people for NOT spontaneously procreating, yet are hard pressed to make hets stick to their parental duties, let alone spousal ones. Divorce occurs with alarming and tragic regularity. So making things more difficult for those gay adults who ARE being responsible, compassionate and so generous with their homes and love for kids in need, seems more like spite and not any form of common sense. Common sense would respect ANY adult who is being this responsible at all. Because plenty of them are not. That’s the funny thing about the idealizations the anti gay are advertising, and what reality requires.
The biological moms and dads, who are given all the freedom to have as many children as they want without gov’t interference or restraint, are the ones lacking in consideration of the conditions under which they choose to have those children or prevent their conception.
Hence, in just about every state, CPS and foster services are overwhelmed with needful children.

NOM, FRC and so on, have little influence when it comes to having hets punished or restricted in any way. They don’t even advocate for much easier, cheaper and accessible birth control. Quite the opposite in fact.

They want to punish gay people for NOT spontaneously procreating, yet are hard pressed to make hets stick to their parental duties, let alone spousal ones.
Divorce occurs with alarming and tragic regularity.
So making things more difficult for those gay adults who ARE being responsible, compassionate and so generous with their homes and love for kids in need, seems more like spite and not any form of common sense.
Common sense would respect ANY adult who is being this responsible at all.
Because plenty of them are not.

]]> By: Steve http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/09/07/48513/comment-page-1#comment-139316 Steve Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:50:28 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48513#comment-139316 Many states also allow single people to adopt, but prohibit gay couples from adopting. Which makes no sense whatsoever. They can't argue that gay adoption would be bad for children while allowing single adoption. I disagree about tying adoption to marriage though. Benefits need to be decoupled from marriage - for all couples. The suitability for adoption should be considered on a case by case basis. Many states also allow single people to adopt, but prohibit gay couples from adopting. Which makes no sense whatsoever. They can’t argue that gay adoption would be bad for children while allowing single adoption.

I disagree about tying adoption to marriage though. Benefits need to be decoupled from marriage – for all couples. The suitability for adoption should be considered on a case by case basis.

]]> By: Emily http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/09/07/48513/comment-page-1#comment-139305 Emily Sat, 08 Sep 2012 14:41:53 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48513#comment-139305 As a Michigan resident, I'm definitely rooting for these two. What a beautiful family they have! As a Michigan resident, I’m definitely rooting for these two. What a beautiful family they have!

]]> By: Rob in San Diego http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/09/07/48513/comment-page-1#comment-139252 Rob in San Diego Sat, 08 Sep 2012 03:35:46 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=48513#comment-139252 Well since they are not married, then technically they are single and living as roommates. Well since they are not married, then technically they are single and living as roommates.

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