1. No intent or ability of children is required to be able to legally marry.

2. There is no morals, competence or ability test or requirement to marry OR parent.

3. There isn’t even a ban on marriage for anyone with genetic disease who may pass them onto their progeny.

4. There isn’t a ban on marriage for people with criminal records or the ability to avoid raising a child in poverty.

5. The children of widowed, divorced or never married parents aren’t taken away from them, in favor of an op sex couple that will take them in.

So how the hell does anyone expect that making all these reasons legal reason for discrimination against gay couples alone makes a good and rational legal argument? There is no discrimination for any of their reasons NOW.

In other words: this is strictly about defaming gay people or gay couples as the worst thing that can happen to a child. That their orientation and status as a same sex couples automatically disqualifies their ability or competence in their relationships, let alone that with a child.

This is outrageous just on it’s face. For the simple reality and fact that gay people are not the worst thing that could happen to marriage or A marriage. And gay couples are not the worst thing that can happen to a child.

That any law makers or members of the courts would agree, is ridiculous.

The key word is “couples”.

Very few same-sex couples raise children there. Most of them are married to heterosexuals and raising children with them.

Why does Iran and many countries in the Middle East think they don’t have homosexual and transgender people? Because they all feel forced to get married and have kids. Without family they have no standing in society. Sexual and gender liberation as we know it in Aus has led to much fewer of us GLBT having children than the previous generation and many of those that did probably won’t if they were born 30 years later.

Allowing SSM will expand the concept of family. I observe that the next generation of gay men have much stronger connections to their families, to their nieces and nephews than I have had. I doubt that leads them to be more likely to want kids of their own.

and that, my dear duck, points right at the heart of the REAL issue. I feel a rant coming on, and if i can do it tonight when the husband’s asleep, i will.

Remember? Adam and eve, not adam and steve.

But if this Boswell wants to help children he might well propose a law against bad fathering which makes a boy gay. And don’t pass any laws against we the “victims” but our dads the perpetrators.