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	<title>Comments on: NOM has 112 supporters</title>
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		<title>By: Tor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is juvenile, but someone has to say it:

“Keep the Republic and Marriage” = KRAM.

As in &quot;kram it down our throats.&quot;</description>
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<p>“Keep the Republic and Marriage” = KRAM.</p>
<p>As in &#8220;kram it down our throats.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 23:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exciting update: they are up to 116 supporters</description>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. What are they trying to do? They&#039;re getting whipped by Corvino/Granderson type Enlightenment arguments so they&#039;re trying to wrap themselves in the flag and make their own. What&#039;s more patriotic than the principals that underlie our country but the symbols of the country itself and populist misunderstandings of fundamental rights? I summed it up recently after a successful conversation/argument amongst strangers on my bus: &quot;What&#039;s the Middle America argument for gay marriage? Opposing Gay Marriage is unAmerican.&quot;

2. Even though donors to NOM are not subject to public disclosure [a misleading statement of the groups&#039; legal position. A lot like Hillary Clinton&#039;s assertion that gay rights are human rights, albeit, a statement on domestic &amp; not international law, less exciting, and not on our side.] 

3. This bit: &lt;blockquote&gt; America depends upon the free and open discussion of ideas. The use of fear and intimidation to silence public discussion is fundamentally incompatible with the American form of government in which ultimate authority rests with the people. &lt;/blockquote&gt; Should have cued you in to their attempt to co-opt enlightenment values by making a mistaken (but popular) argument about an enlightenment right under attack. People honestly believe that freedom of speech includes freedom from the consequences of speech. 

4. This bit: 
&lt;blockquote&gt; Scholars, public figures, and average citizens who publically &lt;i&gt;(sic)&lt;/i&gt; defend the institution of marriage as the conjugal union of one man and one woman often face character assassination and occasionally threats of physical violence. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obviously points to them attempting to justify the position they took now that the decision on disclosure is before a nonjudicial body again. 

4. I&#039;m not sure how you missed that this website obviously is a last second attempt to influence the Maine ethics commission in light of the refusal by the supreme court to hear their appeal. Just starting at the date it MUST BE obvious to anyone with eyes and... well... I could keep going, but I think you get the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. What are they trying to do? They&#8217;re getting whipped by Corvino/Granderson type Enlightenment arguments so they&#8217;re trying to wrap themselves in the flag and make their own. What&#8217;s more patriotic than the principals that underlie our country but the symbols of the country itself and populist misunderstandings of fundamental rights? I summed it up recently after a successful conversation/argument amongst strangers on my bus: &#8220;What&#8217;s the Middle America argument for gay marriage? Opposing Gay Marriage is unAmerican.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. Even though donors to NOM are not subject to public disclosure [a misleading statement of the groups' legal position. A lot like Hillary Clinton's assertion that gay rights are human rights, albeit, a statement on domestic &amp; not international law, less exciting, and not on our side.] </p>
<p>3. This bit:<br />
<blockquote> America depends upon the free and open discussion of ideas. The use of fear and intimidation to silence public discussion is fundamentally incompatible with the American form of government in which ultimate authority rests with the people. </p></blockquote>
<p> Should have cued you in to their attempt to co-opt enlightenment values by making a mistaken (but popular) argument about an enlightenment right under attack. People honestly believe that freedom of speech includes freedom from the consequences of speech. </p>
<p>4. This bit: </p>
<blockquote><p> Scholars, public figures, and average citizens who publically <i>(sic)</i> defend the institution of marriage as the conjugal union of one man and one woman often face character assassination and occasionally threats of physical violence. </p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously points to them attempting to justify the position they took now that the decision on disclosure is before a nonjudicial body again. </p>
<p>4. I&#8217;m not sure how you missed that this website obviously is a last second attempt to influence the Maine ethics commission in light of the refusal by the supreme court to hear their appeal. Just starting at the date it MUST BE obvious to anyone with eyes and&#8230; well&#8230; I could keep going, but I think you get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at who 5 of the supporters are:

106. John Eastman
108. Christophher Plante
109. Margaret Gallagher
111. Frank Schubert
112. Brian Brown

lol.</description>
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<p>106. John Eastman<br />
108. Christophher Plante<br />
109. Margaret Gallagher<br />
111. Frank Schubert<br />
112. Brian Brown</p>
<p>lol.</p>
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