Comments on: Rubio Records Robocall for NOM

By: tristram

tristram — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:36:22 +0000

“. . .back in play.”

By: tristram

tristram — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:41:47 +0000

@Robert – in the worst-case scenario (Romney, GOP Senate and 3 or 4 referendum losses), the Supreme Court would go into lock-down on gay issues. They would find a way to defer the pending cases, or hear them and decide against equality. This Court is not going to lead on these issues. In fact, if Romney appointees succeed any two of justices Ginsburg, Breyer and Kennedy over the next four years, Lawrence v. Texas will be back play.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:45:52 +0000

@tristram,

Well If your last post is correct, I certainly hope the Supremes decide to hear the DOMA case later this month. I think they will strike it down if they review it, too many lower courts hav aggreed it is Unconstitutional. Yes, it is a tough court to put it in front of, but I think after Lawerence V Texas, it would go our way.

But I don’t think Rmoney is going to win, and I think we will hold the Senate and gain about 5 in the House.

By: tristram

tristram — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:31:13 +0000

@cowboy – we will find out if Rubio is as smart as many Republicans say he is. As I opined above in this thread, he appears to be trying to establish his credentials to run for President in 2016 or 2020 – so he thinks the base of the GOP will still be strongly anti-equality at that time.

Depending on what happens today, he could be correct. If Romney wins, it is very likely that the Senate will go Republican. That changes all the dynamics, including the balance of power on the Supreme Court. Under those circumstances it’s hard to imagine the Court finding any part of DOMA unconstitutional. Unless there were a clear countervailing force – say victories for equality in at least two of today’s referendums – the Court is not going to buck the Executive and Legislative branches.

If Romney wins and the Senate goes GOP, there will be an immediate barrage of anti-gay executive actions and legislation. Since Romney will not be able to effect even a fraction of the changes he promised for “Day 1″ or “the first 100 days”, he will gladly use the social issues to keep the GOP base off his back.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:54:02 +0000

Thanks Priya Lynn,

It will save me time so I don’t have to scroll through every page for the last few months. I never noticed it, but I’m still (slightly) new around here.

Apreciated.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:51:10 +0000

Guys, there’s a search function in the upper left corner of the BTB home page. You can select to search the web or BTB, it should already be clicked to BTB.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:48:04 +0000

Tampa Zeke, there are posts regarding LCR and the Platform. It’s from a month or more ago, and in every single post Timothy does indeed decry the anti-gay language used in the GOP Platform. He, at least in all the posts on the Platform, did not claim that the republican’s wouldn’t use anti-gay social attacks. If there were conversations longer ago, I am not sure. But I went over the last two months or so, and I can find nothing to back your assertions up. BUT, that isn’t to say that something might not have been declared longer ago than that. And the only ability to search, that I could find, was to simply keep clicking on the Older Posts link at the bottom of the page. I’m not sure why Timothy wouldn’t tell you if there WAS a search function. But if he knows, maybe he will share it with you. (I went to Jim’s article about the LCR Platform and there was a link to every story discussing the issue in Jims posting, hasd something like five links or so.).

By: cowboy

cowboy — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:20:56 +0000

@Ryan,

There might be other problems for Rubio’s political future other than the controversy about being naturally born in the USA.

Lots of things can change in four years. The Supreme Court will have rulings/opinions about gay civil rights. DOMA will be declared unconstitutional. More States will enable gay civil marriages. A much larger younger generation will not take kindly to someone who has this kind of connection with a bigoted hate group.

Those who fought against gay civil rights might be ridiculed so much that it will be a liability in the 2016 political arena. This will come back to haunt Rubio.

Or I just love to fantasize while I await the tallies today.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 02:10:38 +0000

Zeke,

I’ll make you a deal:

If you find where I said that “THIS was going to be the year that Republicans stopped using LGBT people’s lives as a political football”, I will readily apologize.

But if I didn’t, then please stop seeing me as some cartoon evil villain who is spending every moment crafting some nefarious scheme to hurt the Democrats.

I’m not anti-Democrat. Yes, really. Believe it or not.

By: TampaZeke

TampaZeke — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:31:56 +0000

I wish I knew how to research past posts and comments Timothy. Anyone who knows how to do the research PLEASE refresh Timothy’s selective memory. I think it was in a post about how LCR and/or GOProud was predicting that the GOP would avoid anti-gay campaigning this year.