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	<title>Comments on: Peter LaBarbera Reacts</title>
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		<title>By: emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the actual ammount of &quot;ex-gays&quot; is not really known, at first it was &quot;millions&quot; then &quot;hundreds of thousands&quot; it has been jumping around exodus has never provided any actual numbers. Wayne Besen was quick to point out that most of the &quot;ex-gays&quot; they trotted out as shining examples, of what prayer and Jebus can do for you, all seemed to be on various religious rights payroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the actual ammount of &#8220;ex-gays&#8221; is not really known, at first it was &#8220;millions&#8221; then &#8220;hundreds of thousands&#8221; it has been jumping around exodus has never provided any actual numbers. Wayne Besen was quick to point out that most of the &#8220;ex-gays&#8221; they trotted out as shining examples, of what prayer and Jebus can do for you, all seemed to be on various religious rights payroll.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to refer to &quot;thousands&quot; of ex-gays if you never bothered to do any follow-up studies to determine how many of them remained &quot;ex-gay.&quot;

Not that there were ever thousands of them to begin with, but what&#039;s a decimal place here or there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to refer to &#8220;thousands&#8221; of ex-gays if you never bothered to do any follow-up studies to determine how many of them remained &#8220;ex-gay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not that there were ever thousands of them to begin with, but what&#8217;s a decimal place here or there?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hlavac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hlavac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who are these 1000s of &quot;ex-gays&quot;? So far it seems everyone in that business admits they are 100% failures -- now this guy comes along again to say 1000s -- I doubt you could fill a small conference room with all the &quot;ex-gays&quot; these people talk about. Other than that, he&#039;s genocidal -- he just wants us gone - and I don&#039;t think he cares how. And the bum doesn&#039;t even thank us for the job we provide him. Egad, what a putz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who are these 1000s of &#8220;ex-gays&#8221;? So far it seems everyone in that business admits they are 100% failures &#8212; now this guy comes along again to say 1000s &#8212; I doubt you could fill a small conference room with all the &#8220;ex-gays&#8221; these people talk about. Other than that, he&#8217;s genocidal &#8212; he just wants us gone &#8211; and I don&#8217;t think he cares how. And the bum doesn&#8217;t even thank us for the job we provide him. Egad, what a putz.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/11/08/50756/comment-page-1#comment-176333</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 22:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snowman:

&quot;Does anyone actually take this guy seriously?&quot;

Let me tell you a story about LaBarbera, who was the founder of the Illinois Family Institute:  He tried twice to put an advisory referendum on the ballot calling for a constitutional amendment defining marriage as &quot;man/woman.&quot;  The first time, about half the signatures were bogus.  The second time, he didn&#039;t even get enough signatures to file the petitions.  Shortly thereafter, he was asked to leave the IFI.

Let me put it this way: no one with two brain cells to rub together pays any attention to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowman:</p>
<p>&#8220;Does anyone actually take this guy seriously?&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me tell you a story about LaBarbera, who was the founder of the Illinois Family Institute:  He tried twice to put an advisory referendum on the ballot calling for a constitutional amendment defining marriage as &#8220;man/woman.&#8221;  The first time, about half the signatures were bogus.  The second time, he didn&#8217;t even get enough signatures to file the petitions.  Shortly thereafter, he was asked to leave the IFI.</p>
<p>Let me put it this way: no one with two brain cells to rub together pays any attention to him.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnAGJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnAGJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what, he&#039;ll show what a courageous cultural warrior he is by going to even more S&amp;M events - wearing azzless chaps of course?  

Ugh.  

Actually, that&#039;s a mental image I didn&#039;t need...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what, he&#8217;ll show what a courageous cultural warrior he is by going to even more S&amp;M events &#8211; wearing azzless chaps of course?  </p>
<p>Ugh.  </p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s a mental image I didn&#8217;t need&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/11/08/50756/comment-page-1#comment-176255</link>
		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 19:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really love how he&#039;s calling Christians who don&#039;t follow in lock step with him &#039;timid&#039;.

   As IF he&#039;s such a stalwart and courageous person for what he&#039;s doing.
   It&#039;s so easy to laugh at this delusional pus wart.
   
    It&#039;s not courage to use defamation, nor foment it.
    You&#039;re not taking any risks, when the people you treat this way are not threatening, violent or have any wish to be.
   There is no strength in obsessing about lives lived as law abiding, tax paying and responsible people.

   It doesn&#039;t take any bravery or endurance to be nasty to people who are only doing what others are SUPPORTED, if not applauded for doing.

   Gay folks are the allies of civil society, not it&#039;s enemies.
    And Pathetic Pete is literally throwing shade at people he doesn&#039;t think are acting strongly enough against windmills?

    He is a white, heterosexual, Christian male in America. He has freedoms, rights, privileges and protections he&#039;s never had to lift a finger to have, much less deserve.

  He couldn&#039;t be one of us, a gay person, a woman, or person of color for two seconds, if this is all it takes to get his jock in such a knot.

   What a pasty little worm. And as for DL Foster, he&#039;s no better either. It takes strength to be an out and proud gay man.
  It takes courage to rise above defamation and prove it wrong. It takes big brass ones to do so, without firing a shot, but engaging due process of law.

  Both men are so weak and spineless.
  So easy, to laugh at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love how he&#8217;s calling Christians who don&#8217;t follow in lock step with him &#8216;timid&#8217;.</p>
<p>   As IF he&#8217;s such a stalwart and courageous person for what he&#8217;s doing.<br />
   It&#8217;s so easy to laugh at this delusional pus wart.</p>
<p>    It&#8217;s not courage to use defamation, nor foment it.<br />
    You&#8217;re not taking any risks, when the people you treat this way are not threatening, violent or have any wish to be.<br />
   There is no strength in obsessing about lives lived as law abiding, tax paying and responsible people.</p>
<p>   It doesn&#8217;t take any bravery or endurance to be nasty to people who are only doing what others are SUPPORTED, if not applauded for doing.</p>
<p>   Gay folks are the allies of civil society, not it&#8217;s enemies.<br />
    And Pathetic Pete is literally throwing shade at people he doesn&#8217;t think are acting strongly enough against windmills?</p>
<p>    He is a white, heterosexual, Christian male in America. He has freedoms, rights, privileges and protections he&#8217;s never had to lift a finger to have, much less deserve.</p>
<p>  He couldn&#8217;t be one of us, a gay person, a woman, or person of color for two seconds, if this is all it takes to get his jock in such a knot.</p>
<p>   What a pasty little worm. And as for DL Foster, he&#8217;s no better either. It takes strength to be an out and proud gay man.<br />
  It takes courage to rise above defamation and prove it wrong. It takes big brass ones to do so, without firing a shot, but engaging due process of law.</p>
<p>  Both men are so weak and spineless.<br />
  So easy, to laugh at them.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people found a source of income that&#039;s almost as lucrative as state lotteries and they know they are going to lose their gravy train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people found a source of income that&#8217;s almost as lucrative as state lotteries and they know they are going to lose their gravy train.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“This titanic fight has always been about homosexuality, not just “defending marriage.”

Its always solely been about gayness, its never been about &quot;defending marriage&quot; - no one on our side has ever tried to stop anyone from marrying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“This titanic fight has always been about homosexuality, not just “defending marriage.”</p>
<p>Its always solely been about gayness, its never been about &#8220;defending marriage&#8221; &#8211; no one on our side has ever tried to stop anyone from marrying.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porno Pete? Yeah, that sounds like a nickname somebody would give to a good, upstanding Christian man...

OK, nevermind, I couldn&#039;t even type that with a straight face.

Does anyone actually take this guy seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porno Pete? Yeah, that sounds like a nickname somebody would give to a good, upstanding Christian man&#8230;</p>
<p>OK, nevermind, I couldn&#8217;t even type that with a straight face.</p>
<p>Does anyone actually take this guy seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben In Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben In Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This titanic fight has always been about homosexuality, not just “defending marriage.&quot;

Of course, Petie. We knew that. lad to see you admit it, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This titanic fight has always been about homosexuality, not just “defending marriage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, Petie. We knew that. lad to see you admit it, too.</p>
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