Comments on: Arizona man files paperwork to start reversing marriage ban http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/11/20/51168 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sun, 19 May 2013 14:07:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Lord_Byron http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/11/20/51168/comment-page-1#comment-179540 Lord_Byron Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:02:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=51168#comment-179540 "But it’s Arizona. Anything could happen." History shows that Arizona is an extremely conservative state with a super majority in both areas of the state congress. I doubt this will go anywhere. “But it’s Arizona. Anything could happen.”

History shows that Arizona is an extremely conservative state with a super majority in both areas of the state congress. I doubt this will go anywhere.

]]> By: Dave H http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/11/20/51168/comment-page-1#comment-179520 Dave H Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:26:15 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=51168#comment-179520 Let's not forget that Arizona voters defeated an anti-marriage equality amendment in 2006. Still, I'm not enthusiastic about this - both for the reasons F Young stated above, and also because I believe people's rights should not be placed on the ballot for popular vote. Most of these state constitution amendments aren't going to fall until the Supreme Court rules them unconstitutional. Let’s not forget that Arizona voters defeated an anti-marriage equality amendment in 2006.

Still, I’m not enthusiastic about this – both for the reasons F Young stated above, and also because I believe people’s rights should not be placed on the ballot for popular vote.

Most of these state constitution amendments aren’t going to fall until the Supreme Court rules them unconstitutional.

]]> By: F Young http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/11/20/51168/comment-page-1#comment-179449 F Young Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:52:40 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=51168#comment-179449 Personally, I am concerned about an individual, especially a novice, taking this on by himself based on his gut feelings. I think that era has passed. An individual can do a lot of harm to us. It appears that he does not already have partners and funding lined up. He should not assume that they and thousands of volunteers will be there when he needs them. The fundamentals seem to be okay for marriage equality in Arizona: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/29/the-future-of-same-sex-marriage-ballot-measures/ However, I am not aware of opinion polling favoring same-sex marriage. One poll in November 2011 found 44% support, with 45% opposition: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_AZ_1130424.pdf Another poll in May 2012 found 39% support for marriage: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/05/arizona-voters-overwhelmingly-back-gay-rights.html A constitutional amendment banning marriage equlity passed in 2008 with a 56-44 margin. Personally, I am concerned about an individual, especially a novice, taking this on by himself based on his gut feelings. I think that era has passed. An individual can do a lot of harm to us.

It appears that he does not already have partners and funding lined up. He should not assume that they and thousands of volunteers will be there when he needs them.

The fundamentals seem to be okay for marriage equality in Arizona:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/29/the-future-of-same-sex-marriage-ballot-measures/

However, I am not aware of opinion polling favoring same-sex marriage. One poll in November 2011 found 44% support, with 45% opposition:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_AZ_1130424.pdf

Another poll in May 2012 found 39% support for marriage:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/05/arizona-voters-overwhelmingly-back-gay-rights.html

A constitutional amendment banning marriage equlity passed in 2008 with a 56-44 margin.

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