Comments on: Just cuz sometimes crazy is tied to crazy – AND SOMETIMES NOT

By: Pacal

Pacal — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:55:42 +0000

“I certainly would agree that the show is an inappropriate choice, but that’s because it’s insipid and banal and will rot your brain until is oozes out of your ear and drips on your collar. But as for “filth”, meh.”

Win!

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:41:49 +0000

I just believe the truth, Timothy. I gave you the correct information as did others, yet you then proceeded to tell us why you were right and we were wrong, denyint the links and information provided. You just couldn’t admit what your readers were telling you was true. So, I will see this as it is. And that does suit my fancy.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:46:02 +0000

Very well, Robert. You are entitled to see this as you wish and to believe whatever suits your fancy.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:28:38 +0000

Tim, one quick view of the video of Angus would have told you what organization he was connected with. THe Forerunner Chronicles name is ALL over the video and one can’t miss it, that is if one does any research and doesn’t rely on the AP for it’s entire story. Funny how today we have a story on the front page about how the AP does indeed give false information. But then again, you fought every single individual who tried to tell you that you were in error, only to finally have to concede the error, while trying to claim that you were duped by the AP. Funy, everyone telling you that you were wrong was met with derision and a snarky post about how right you were. If you were so right, even against all the proof that people provided you, why did you have to post the clarification and the actula acurate information.

Funny how you even went to the sites and couldn’t see the difference. But then again, now we will wait to hear how you are not a reporter and all that. You had multiple sources telling you the correct information and you ignored it. In your own words, “So, let me walk you through it”….you were wrong, you refused for days to acknowledge the truth, and you ignored every ounce of proof given and now you cry and blame the AP. You really need to develop some sort of moral center. You always blame your mistakes on others. Not an attractive trait, but common in republicans.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:06:05 +0000

Actually there are three organizations and I didn’t get them confused. AP reported incorrect information.

Forerunner Christian Fellowship is the program affiliated with IHOP. It is the name of their small group program which the wife-murderer was seeking to be involved with.

Forerunner Chronicles hosted the video. It has nothing to do with IHOP.

Forerunner Christian Church was reported by AP to have posted the video. They did not. Howere I was correct my illustration of their links to IHOP. They don’t seem to be a subsidiary or formally affiliated with IHOP, but they are clearly aligned and appear to have based their structure on IHOP.

Are we all in agreement?

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:08:34 +0000

Dave, his last example of how to deal with the 2 and 1/2 Men production is Charlie Sheen. He made millions off his crazy tour and now has a new hit show revolving around the things he enjoys. Maybe Angus is angling for his own tee vee program on a second rate channel…

By: Dave H

Dave H — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:50:36 +0000

If I made disparaging comments such as these about my employer or my employer’s product, I would probably be fired. At least it would be a “career-limiting move.”

This young man may be just 19 and can be excused for some poor choices, but I suspect he is about to learn a real-life adult lesson the hard way.

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:45:19 +0000

If you go to the IHOP webpage you will see that they are affiliated with FORERUNNER CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP, not Forerunner Christian Church:

http://www.ihopkc.org/fcf/

The kid is involved with Forerunner Chronicles, which is a different Organization:

http://forerunnerchronicles.com/

. Yes, similar names, not the same church.The reports I have read say that The organization that hosts the Forerunners this kid is involved in are out of Alabama.

http://www.eonline.com/news/366190/angus-t-jones-family-friends-fearful-about-church-s-influence-over-two-and-a-half-men-star

You got two different organizations confused. Sorry, but it’s true, they are not the same.

By: David L Rattigan

David L Rattigan — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:16:41 +0000

Wrong church.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:48:50 +0000

I realize that I did not lay out the details which led me to state that “is aligned with and seemingly based on the International House of Prayer.” So let me walk you through it.

The name immediately drew my attention. In Christendom, the selection of a church name often intentionally based on similar names of other churches with whom the church shares perspectives. This doesn’t mean that they are affiliated, and sometimes is accidental, but quite often suggests a fellowship between them. That’s what inspired me to look closer.

So I went to the website of Forerunners Christian Church in Fremont (on the east side of the San Francisco Bay), the church that was reported to be hosting the video.

And on their “About Us” page, I found their “Vision and Calling”:

Our Vision and Calling

“To prepare an army of forerunners who have a burning passion for, and are willing to share the burden of prayer with Christ, who reign this world by holiness in the end-time.” This is the vision of FRCC. In May of 2002, through God’s guidance, we purchased a 10.4-acre school campus in Fremont, California. God revealed that His purpose for this campus is for it to be used as a “Revival Base”, which now consists of a sanctuary/training center building with prayer and ministry rooms, classroom buildings, and student housing.

This reminded me of the IHOP structure and is reflective of the language of those who align with that ministry. And then I found the first link, a subscript on that page:

[1]The International House of Prayer is located in Kansas City, Missouri. Their daily 24-hour worship, praises, intercession, and prayers for many countries and cities started in September 19th, 1999. The URL for the International House of Prayer is at the Friends Of The Bridegroom website: http://www.fotb.com

A search of their site provided a second link, the speaker at their Winter Conference was :

David Sliker is currently director of the Student Ministries Department at the International House of Prayer Missions Base in Kansas City, Missouri, where he lives with his wife, Tracey, and their three children, Riley, Lauren and Daniel.

David’s primary calling is as an intercessor, and his primary delight is the House of Prayer; he has a heart that burns to see the church prepared for the days ahead, walking in the fullness of the Beatitudes of Christ and the highest of God’s plans for the end of the age.

And then I found the closest and most FRIGGING OBVIOUS connection, their training center which lists a number of instructors starting with their pastor and then Mike Bickle. Mike Bickle is the founder and pastor at the International House of Prayer.

And as to Forerunner Christian Church being Seventh Day Adventist, this is their worship schedule:

Friday Night Youth and Sunday Morning English Services are located in Multi-Purpose Room (MPR).

If you know anything about the SDA, you’ll get a chuckle out of that.