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	<title>Comments on: SCOTUS appoints unrelated attorney to argue against jurisdiction in DOMA</title>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not common, but it happens from time to time.  Bill Coleman was appointed to argue in favor of the IRS authority to withdraw a university&#039;s tax exempt status because of racial discrimination in the Bob Jones University case in the early 1980s, when the Administration declined to defend the IRS authority.  As I recall, the court appointed a local practitioner to argue that the court did not have jurisdiction to hear the  Affordable Care Act cases this past term under the anti-tax injunction act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not common, but it happens from time to time.  Bill Coleman was appointed to argue in favor of the IRS authority to withdraw a university&#8217;s tax exempt status because of racial discrimination in the Bob Jones University case in the early 1980s, when the Administration declined to defend the IRS authority.  As I recall, the court appointed a local practitioner to argue that the court did not have jurisdiction to hear the  Affordable Care Act cases this past term under the anti-tax injunction act.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress has standing to defend its legislation.  Imagine if they did not.  All that would be needed is to find one corrupt judge to overturn legislation and then the president would hold all power over whether to defend the legislation or &quot;veto&quot; it by choosing not to defend it in court.  I hope the current Supreme Court has enough sense to find standing.  We are not a banana republic just yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress has standing to defend its legislation.  Imagine if they did not.  All that would be needed is to find one corrupt judge to overturn legislation and then the president would hold all power over whether to defend the legislation or &#8220;veto&#8221; it by choosing not to defend it in court.  I hope the current Supreme Court has enough sense to find standing.  We are not a banana republic just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>customartist,

The California issue isn&#039;t about banning same sex marriages.  It is about taking away the marriage rights after they had been found to be a Constitutional Right by the State Supreme COurt.  THe issue is the taking away an existing right.  It could not be used to send any message to any other state, as only California has granted then taken away those rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>customartist,</p>
<p>The California issue isn&#8217;t about banning same sex marriages.  It is about taking away the marriage rights after they had been found to be a Constitutional Right by the State Supreme COurt.  THe issue is the taking away an existing right.  It could not be used to send any message to any other state, as only California has granted then taken away those rights.</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For SCOTUS to not hear Windsor, that leaves Prop 8 for the court to determine if Banning SS Marrige is Constitutional or not. Even if only applied to Cali, the clear implication would be that no state could do the same.

Should any other State attempt to oppose this, then only one more case would do the deed, and likely end up with SCOUTS much more quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For SCOTUS to not hear Windsor, that leaves Prop 8 for the court to determine if Banning SS Marrige is Constitutional or not. Even if only applied to Cali, the clear implication would be that no state could do the same.</p>
<p>Should any other State attempt to oppose this, then only one more case would do the deed, and likely end up with SCOUTS much more quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben said it succinctly. And, to Hue-Man&#039;s posting, if SCOTUS quashes cert. for lack of jurisdiction, then the Second Circuit&#039;s decision in Windsor v. U.S. is the law and given the respect for the Second Circuit, the other Circuits are likely to follow it except maybe for the Fifth and Eleventh Circuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben said it succinctly. And, to Hue-Man&#8217;s posting, if SCOTUS quashes cert. for lack of jurisdiction, then the Second Circuit&#8217;s decision in Windsor v. U.S. is the law and given the respect for the Second Circuit, the other Circuits are likely to follow it except maybe for the Fifth and Eleventh Circuits.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hue-Man, it isn&#039;t just the Government that says it is unconstitutional, it was the governmnet RELYING ON FEDERAL COURT RULINGS that said it is unconstitutional.  Big difference.  In your example, there would need to be many cases for a supposed TeaParty Santorum presidency to rely on.  But yes, it does indeed need to be settled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hue-Man, it isn&#8217;t just the Government that says it is unconstitutional, it was the governmnet RELYING ON FEDERAL COURT RULINGS that said it is unconstitutional.  Big difference.  In your example, there would need to be many cases for a supposed TeaParty Santorum presidency to rely on.  But yes, it does indeed need to be settled.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hue-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If SCOTUS won&#039;t take DOMA because the government says it&#039;s unconstitutional, how do you ever know what is or is not constitutional? Without a final arbiter, you end up with laws that are enforced or not depending on who is in office.

Example: Democrat Obama says DOMA unconstitutional, four years later, TeaParty President Santorum says constitutional and retroactively takes away all the benefits. (!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If SCOTUS won&#8217;t take DOMA because the government says it&#8217;s unconstitutional, how do you ever know what is or is not constitutional? Without a final arbiter, you end up with laws that are enforced or not depending on who is in office.</p>
<p>Example: Democrat Obama says DOMA unconstitutional, four years later, TeaParty President Santorum says constitutional and retroactively takes away all the benefits. (!)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, I sincerely hope you&#039;re right. It just doesn&#039;t feel that way, but ever since bowers v. Hardwicke, my faith in the perspicacity andhe integrity of the SCOTUS has been less than unwavering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, I sincerely hope you&#8217;re right. It just doesn&#8217;t feel that way, but ever since bowers v. Hardwicke, my faith in the perspicacity andhe integrity of the SCOTUS has been less than unwavering.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, I&#039;m not convinced that the question of standing is merely evasive.  It was a pretty big deal in the &lt;i&gt;Arizonans for Official English&lt;/i&gt; case.  They may be seeing increased proposition action and want to clear up the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I&#8217;m not convinced that the question of standing is merely evasive.  It was a pretty big deal in the <i>Arizonans for Official English</i> case.  They may be seeing increased proposition action and want to clear up the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben In Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben In Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this just a nice way to say that the judges really don&#039;t want to rule on any of it? Are they really that chickenshit?

Amd if so, then just when i think they can&#039;t go any lower, someone hands them a shovel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this just a nice way to say that the judges really don&#8217;t want to rule on any of it? Are they really that chickenshit?</p>
<p>Amd if so, then just when i think they can&#8217;t go any lower, someone hands them a shovel.</p>
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