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	<title>Comments on: Appeals court finds for Palm Springs cops, not &#8220;filthy mother-f*ckers and c*cksuckers&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David Foreman—your observation is not a new one:

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Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither &lt;i&gt;—Benjamin Franklin&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David Foreman—your observation is not a new one:</p>
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Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither <i>—Benjamin Franklin</i>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the vile truth is that it is perfectly legal to target gay people for discrimination in law enforcement. Laws directed at gay people, and only at gay people, are legal. We are not a protected class, there is no presumption of unconstitutionality in the behavior of federal, state, or municipal officers, and if the courts protect the police from the people (instead of the other way around), we have little recourse.&quot;

100% true.  And it&#039;s a disgrace that religious belief *is* a protected class.  Being gay is not a lifestyle choice - being an adherent to a religion is.

I&#039;ve long said that we should create a church of gay so that we could enjoy the same protections 80%+ of the population enjoys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the vile truth is that it is perfectly legal to target gay people for discrimination in law enforcement. Laws directed at gay people, and only at gay people, are legal. We are not a protected class, there is no presumption of unconstitutionality in the behavior of federal, state, or municipal officers, and if the courts protect the police from the people (instead of the other way around), we have little recourse.&#8221;</p>
<p>100% true.  And it&#8217;s a disgrace that religious belief *is* a protected class.  Being gay is not a lifestyle choice &#8211; being an adherent to a religion is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long said that we should create a church of gay so that we could enjoy the same protections 80%+ of the population enjoys.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 03:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Boycott Palm Springs,&quot; anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Boycott Palm Springs,&#8221; anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>customartist:

Judges who merely make bad decisions are not subject to punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>customartist:</p>
<p>Judges who merely make bad decisions are not subject to punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are these Judges? 

What are their names?

They seem to be incapable of understanding the Constitutional clause &quot;Equal Protection&quot;.

There exists a State Department of Justice (Judicial Conduct) to whom this might be addressed.

http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/ca_code_judicial_ethics.pdf

Support AFER
http://www.afer.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are these Judges? </p>
<p>What are their names?</p>
<p>They seem to be incapable of understanding the Constitutional clause &#8220;Equal Protection&#8221;.</p>
<p>There exists a State Department of Justice (Judicial Conduct) to whom this might be addressed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/ca_code_judicial_ethics.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/ca_code_judicial_ethics.pdf</a></p>
<p>Support AFER<br />
<a href="http://www.afer.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.afer.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lucrece Agree 100% on the sex offender registries.  

I hope these guys appeal but I don&#039;t know what the odds are.

If a cop asks to see your junk on a dark and empty street then why should it be illegal to show it to him if no one else is there to see it?  He got what he asked for and he wasn&#039;t harmed nor was anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lucrece Agree 100% on the sex offender registries.  </p>
<p>I hope these guys appeal but I don&#8217;t know what the odds are.</p>
<p>If a cop asks to see your junk on a dark and empty street then why should it be illegal to show it to him if no one else is there to see it?  He got what he asked for and he wasn&#8217;t harmed nor was anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucrece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucrece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police don&#039;t get more and more wicked; what absurd ignorance if you had any understanding of how the police has functioned throughout history.

It&#039;s always been that way. Police corruption is not new. Profound, callous allowance of injustice by judges? Not new either.

The sex offender registry itself in its current iteration is an abomination against civil liberties. A reminder of what fear does to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police don&#8217;t get more and more wicked; what absurd ignorance if you had any understanding of how the police has functioned throughout history.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always been that way. Police corruption is not new. Profound, callous allowance of injustice by judges? Not new either.</p>
<p>The sex offender registry itself in its current iteration is an abomination against civil liberties. A reminder of what fear does to people.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foreman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really, really don&#039;t understand why there isn&#039;t more outrage.  The police get more and more wicked, even have much of that wickedness caught on video, and there seems to be very little outcry.  
Americans seem to think that they must accept the abuse, or lose security.  We&#039;re losing our freedom in the name of freedom.
And yes, DOMA, Prop 8, and here in Indiana HJR6, are legal battles whose importance cannot be over emphasized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really, really don&#8217;t understand why there isn&#8217;t more outrage.  The police get more and more wicked, even have much of that wickedness caught on video, and there seems to be very little outcry.<br />
Americans seem to think that they must accept the abuse, or lose security.  We&#8217;re losing our freedom in the name of freedom.<br />
And yes, DOMA, Prop 8, and here in Indiana HJR6, are legal battles whose importance cannot be over emphasized.</p>
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