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	<title>Comments on: The Daily Agenda for Monday, January 21</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?  You don&#039;t recognize haiku?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?  You don&#8217;t recognize haiku?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, With just a little more work, you can probably turn that into a poem. Perhaps not a Richard Blanco calibre poem but at least a nifty limerick!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, With just a little more work, you can probably turn that into a poem. Perhaps not a Richard Blanco calibre poem but at least a nifty limerick!  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether pushed or pulled or just vacuumed up, 
whether by intent or as an accident of his own evolution, 
whether directly or indirectly by 
shifting public opinion, 
I think that Obama still gets credit for moving the Republican Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether pushed or pulled or just vacuumed up,<br />
whether by intent or as an accident of his own evolution,<br />
whether directly or indirectly by<br />
shifting public opinion,<br />
I think that Obama still gets credit for moving the Republican Party.</p>
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		<title>By: MattNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one tearing up at Richard Blanco&#039;s poetry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one tearing up at Richard Blanco&#8217;s poetry?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy,

Again you&#039;re wrong. ;-)  Just kidding.

But as I think about it more after writing what I did above last night and reading your comment this morning, I actually don&#039;t think I can say that Obama has &quot;pushed&quot; the GOP anywhere on this issue.

But what I do think has happened is that he has abandoned what used to be the coveted &quot;middle ground&quot; that Dems traditionally tried to stake out on a contentious issue like this. Obama&#039;s position used to be, roughly paraphrased, that gay marriage is kinda icky, I don&#039;t want to think about it, but if you keep asking me, I might mumble something about opposing constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. 

And If the candidate is John Kerry, he&#039;ll add, oh by the way, I gotta be somewhere else when the FMA comes up for a vote in the Senate.

With Dems holding this so-called &quot;middle ground,&quot; there was no way an ambitious Republican pol can hold a position that would be in any way to the left of that position. 

But now Obama has staked out what used to be the &quot;radical&quot; position of fully endorsing marriage equality, leaving the so-called &quot;middle ground&quot; vacant.  I think what is more likely happening is that it has opened up space for some Republicans to voice a more supportive or apparently-supportive position and still be well to the right of Obama. In other words, I don&#039;t think Obama has &quot;pushed&quot; anyone, but because nature abhors a vacuum, they&#039;ve  allowed themselves to be &quot;pulled&quot; more towards where Obama used to be.

But of course it&#039;s not just all about air pressure. I do think also that they are seing the polls and reading the election results and seeing that same-sex marriage is about to become a wedge issue in the opposite direction. Whether it truly is right now or not is still open to debate, but I do see that growing numbers are beginning to act as though it were.

Just my Monday morning musings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy,</p>
<p>Again you&#8217;re wrong. ;-)  Just kidding.</p>
<p>But as I think about it more after writing what I did above last night and reading your comment this morning, I actually don&#8217;t think I can say that Obama has &#8220;pushed&#8221; the GOP anywhere on this issue.</p>
<p>But what I do think has happened is that he has abandoned what used to be the coveted &#8220;middle ground&#8221; that Dems traditionally tried to stake out on a contentious issue like this. Obama&#8217;s position used to be, roughly paraphrased, that gay marriage is kinda icky, I don&#8217;t want to think about it, but if you keep asking me, I might mumble something about opposing constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. </p>
<p>And If the candidate is John Kerry, he&#8217;ll add, oh by the way, I gotta be somewhere else when the FMA comes up for a vote in the Senate.</p>
<p>With Dems holding this so-called &#8220;middle ground,&#8221; there was no way an ambitious Republican pol can hold a position that would be in any way to the left of that position. </p>
<p>But now Obama has staked out what used to be the &#8220;radical&#8221; position of fully endorsing marriage equality, leaving the so-called &#8220;middle ground&#8221; vacant.  I think what is more likely happening is that it has opened up space for some Republicans to voice a more supportive or apparently-supportive position and still be well to the right of Obama. In other words, I don&#8217;t think Obama has &#8220;pushed&#8221; anyone, but because nature abhors a vacuum, they&#8217;ve  allowed themselves to be &#8220;pulled&#8221; more towards where Obama used to be.</p>
<p>But of course it&#8217;s not just all about air pressure. I do think also that they are seing the polls and reading the election results and seeing that same-sex marriage is about to become a wedge issue in the opposite direction. Whether it truly is right now or not is still open to debate, but I do see that growing numbers are beginning to act as though it were.</p>
<p>Just my Monday morning musings.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your argument that President Obama&#039;s public endorsement of marriage equality has pushed the Republican Party into a greater acceptance on the issue is a rather bold position. Yet I think it has merit. Unless this month is an anomaly, the evidence may well back you up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your argument that President Obama&#8217;s public endorsement of marriage equality has pushed the Republican Party into a greater acceptance on the issue is a rather bold position. Yet I think it has merit. Unless this month is an anomaly, the evidence may well back you up.</p>
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		<title>By: MCB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I looked up Rock Hudson&#039;s filmography, and I think the movie they must be talking about is &quot;Blindfold.&quot; Has anyone seen it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I looked up Rock Hudson&#8217;s filmography, and I think the movie they must be talking about is &#8220;Blindfold.&#8221; Has anyone seen it?</p>
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		<title>By: Donny D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donny D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Articles like that are part of the reason I hate Time magazine to this day.</description>
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