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	<title>Comments on: Go Ravens</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DN-

I would rather we rally behind the team with 2 less vocal anti-gay players than the other.  I guess you didn&#039;t see the meltdown recently of three of the 49&#039;ers.  

Rick L-
I&#039;d rather support the team that did not make an &quot;IGB Video&quot; than the team that said theirs wasn&#039;t supposed to be in support of the gays, but just against bullying in general.  And whose video has since been removed from the video project for that very reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DN-</p>
<p>I would rather we rally behind the team with 2 less vocal anti-gay players than the other.  I guess you didn&#8217;t see the meltdown recently of three of the 49&#8242;ers.  </p>
<p>Rick L-<br />
I&#8217;d rather support the team that did not make an &#8220;IGB Video&#8221; than the team that said theirs wasn&#8217;t supposed to be in support of the gays, but just against bullying in general.  And whose video has since been removed from the video project for that very reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/01/23/53060/comment-page-1#comment-247678</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Savage has removed the 49&#039;ers &quot;It gets better&quot; video from his web site - the first time that has ever happened:


http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressrelease/2013/02/33086/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Savage has removed the 49&#8242;ers &#8220;It gets better&#8221; video from his web site &#8211; the first time that has ever happened:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressrelease/2013/02/33086/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressrelease/2013/02/33086/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ’9ers were the first NFL team to release an “It gets better” video. Have the Ravens? – Not yet.&quot;.

And two of the 49&#039;ers that made that video have since denied doing it because they didn&#039;t make no gay rights video.  Also the 49&#039;ers Chris Cullver stated that there was no room for gays in their lockeroom and any closeted players better stay that way:


http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2013/01/33070/

Clearly it was god&#039;s will that the Raven&#039;s win rather than the homophobic 49&#039;ers.  I&#039;m still a little disappointed though, I was hoping for a wardrobe malfunction during the halftime show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The ’9ers were the first NFL team to release an “It gets better” video. Have the Ravens? – Not yet.&#8221;.</p>
<p>And two of the 49&#8242;ers that made that video have since denied doing it because they didn&#8217;t make no gay rights video.  Also the 49&#8242;ers Chris Cullver stated that there was no room for gays in their lockeroom and any closeted players better stay that way:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2013/01/33070/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2013/01/33070/</a></p>
<p>Clearly it was god&#8217;s will that the Raven&#8217;s win rather than the homophobic 49&#8242;ers.  I&#8217;m still a little disappointed though, I was hoping for a wardrobe malfunction during the halftime show.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;9ers were the first NFL team to release an &quot;It gets better&quot; video.  Have the Ravens? - Not yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8217;9ers were the first NFL team to release an &#8220;It gets better&#8221; video.  Have the Ravens? &#8211; Not yet.</p>
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		<title>By: chiMaxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>chiMaxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having more than one open advocate of gay equality in pro football--something unimaginable when I was a kid and people talked of the &quot;shame&quot; of Dave Kopay--this is something to celebrate. 

Sure there are still Matt Birks and Tim Tebows around--but there was a time when that&#039;s all there was in pro football, and anyone who thought differently stayed quiet for fear of being accused of being unmanly.

Not a sports fan myself, my heart is lifted by the likes of Brandon Ayanbadejo, Chris Kluwe, and Ben Cohen (different sport, same cause), a rolling ball of hotness giving gay kids hope and showing boy athletes by example that standing up for gay kids is cool and manly and shit. This is a good thing in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having more than one open advocate of gay equality in pro football&#8211;something unimaginable when I was a kid and people talked of the &#8220;shame&#8221; of Dave Kopay&#8211;this is something to celebrate. </p>
<p>Sure there are still Matt Birks and Tim Tebows around&#8211;but there was a time when that&#8217;s all there was in pro football, and anyone who thought differently stayed quiet for fear of being accused of being unmanly.</p>
<p>Not a sports fan myself, my heart is lifted by the likes of Brandon Ayanbadejo, Chris Kluwe, and Ben Cohen (different sport, same cause), a rolling ball of hotness giving gay kids hope and showing boy athletes by example that standing up for gay kids is cool and manly and shit. This is a good thing in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a few years when most everybody will support full and equal rights for gays and lesbians, am I going to have to become a fan of everything?

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a few years when most everybody will support full and equal rights for gays and lesbians, am I going to have to become a fan of everything?</p>
<p>:(</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t say as I’d suddenly root for a football team just because a gay friendly person is on it, though.&quot;.

I would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can’t say as I’d suddenly root for a football team just because a gay friendly person is on it, though.&#8221;.</p>
<p>I would.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kluwe and Ayanbadejo and every other football player who publicly supports gay marriage are great. I can&#039;t say as I&#039;d suddenly root for a football team just because a gay friendly person is on it, though. Reminds me of the Christians suddenly becoming Tim Tebow fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kluwe and Ayanbadejo and every other football player who publicly supports gay marriage are great. I can&#8217;t say as I&#8217;d suddenly root for a football team just because a gay friendly person is on it, though. Reminds me of the Christians suddenly becoming Tim Tebow fans.</p>
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		<title>By: StraightGrandmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>StraightGrandmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 01:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief ppl lighten up. Honestly! 
Aranbadejo sent out an e-mail at 3:40 in the morning after winning a Super Bowl Birth inquiring how he could leverage this opportunity to help end Discrimination against sexual minorities, that is a hell of an indication of support. 

Tim writes that although he is not a sports fan he will be rooting for the Ravens, and this is something we pick apart? 

Let&#039;s at least save our criticisms for something more controversial, something with more substance than this &quot;upper&quot; positive column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief ppl lighten up. Honestly!<br />
Aranbadejo sent out an e-mail at 3:40 in the morning after winning a Super Bowl Birth inquiring how he could leverage this opportunity to help end Discrimination against sexual minorities, that is a hell of an indication of support. </p>
<p>Tim writes that although he is not a sports fan he will be rooting for the Ravens, and this is something we pick apart? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s at least save our criticisms for something more controversial, something with more substance than this &#8220;upper&#8221; positive column.</p>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I didn&#039;t think you&#039;d address my point about Matt Birk.  And I&#039;m not going to bother pointing you to your comment to me last week about what it means to have an opinion.

My point is this: if you&#039;re going to support an entire team of people because of their stance on an issue, you should have the intellectual honesty to examine the whole record.  And in this case, Bradon Ayanbadejo has an offset in Matt Birk.

I&#039;m all for supporting Brandon - but I&#039;m not going to blithely overlook the record of his teammate.  But as always, we find partial agreement on something: the Great Football Coach in the Sky doesn&#039;t care about this discussion.  Because he doesn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I didn&#8217;t think you&#8217;d address my point about Matt Birk.  And I&#8217;m not going to bother pointing you to your comment to me last week about what it means to have an opinion.</p>
<p>My point is this: if you&#8217;re going to support an entire team of people because of their stance on an issue, you should have the intellectual honesty to examine the whole record.  And in this case, Bradon Ayanbadejo has an offset in Matt Birk.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for supporting Brandon &#8211; but I&#8217;m not going to blithely overlook the record of his teammate.  But as always, we find partial agreement on something: the Great Football Coach in the Sky doesn&#8217;t care about this discussion.  Because he doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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