Comments on: Prop 8 Amicus Briefs, Brought to You by the Lunatic Fringe

By: StraightGrandmother

StraightGrandmother — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:11:59 +0000

Crap, had a really informative comment just about done, coughed moved my finger on the iPad and lost it.

By: John D

John D — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:07:38 +0000

AM,

If you want to file an amicus brief, you need to either be a lawyer (Marjorie Phelps, for example, is counsel on the Westboro brief) or work with a lawyer (as these three did).

If you’re thinking of submitting an amicus in support of striking down Prop 8, I’d advise you to save your time.

I just finished reading “Flagrant Conduce,” Dale Carpenter’s book on “Lawrence v. Texas.” One thing that hurt the Texas case was the number of crazy briefs sent in by anti-gay amici. All they did was point out how the Texas arguments were tied to animus against gay people.

By: markanthony

markanthony — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:31:21 +0000

@Mike
Thanks for mentioning that bit about Lopez. Ive noticed it too. You can read alot of his old writings at American Thinker. There is a spit fire quality to the writing. Its very hard to follow. It seems that he had a very difficult time in his teens and twenties, and he still carries around alot of anger from it.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:17:44 +0000

Now Mr. Burroway, are you suggesting that the Bible is not a encyclopedia of historical facts that can be relied upon to accurately supply dates and details of events from the past?

Sigh, I would argue with you but my stegosaurus gets cranky if I don’t walk him.

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:48:58 +0000

Actually, my point wasn’t jsut that the brief didn’t cite cases, but rather that it didn’t cite facts.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:08:13 +0000

There is something really not right with Lopez. There is an obsessive quality to his writing on this topic. A few days ago, he published a lengthy formal statement calling upon the international community to intervene militarily in the United States to prevent gay marriage and gay adoption. It doesn’t read like a theatrical exercise; he really seems to believe that his statement will be taken seriously and that it is not insane.

As for the brief, the fact that it doesn’t cite cases is not really an issue. This is a purported amicus brief and these purported amici are not claiming to have any new legal perspective to air. Whatever value they bring to the table as amici would be in their perspective on the relevant facts or public policy implications of the court’s ruling. But there is nothing in their brief that says anything new. They seem to think that simply because they are gay and are repeating the appellants’ arguments, that this bestows some value on their brief. It doesn’t. I really wonder if they properly moved for leave to file this amicus brief, or if they just went ahead and filed it without permission.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:10:24 +0000

Doug Mainwaring is back living with his wife.

By: Michael C

Michael C — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:51:44 +0000

Hyhybt, according to some creationists, not only was the population larger before the flood than it is today, but the population was also larger than it is today. Larger like taller-larger. Kent Hovind teaches that humans were probably upwards of fifteen feet tall and lived six to nine hundred years.

…talk about “out of nowhere.”

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:41:55 +0000

The correct word is “animus brief”

By: AM

AM — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:54:13 +0000

Does anyone know how one would go about filing an amicus brief?