Comments on: Surprise! NOM is TERRIBLE at Economic Analysis

By: Bobby In Seattle

Bobby In Seattle — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:55:22 +0000

I’d have to vote that it’s deliberate dishonesty. At least on the part of those running the NOM show.

The average commenter on NOM’s site often falls into the ‘Dunning-Kruger Effect’ camp, where their incompetence blinds them to their true level of competence, therefore they over rate their own self importance and competence level (think Sarah Palin as an example). This is classical behavior of the fringe religious right, where even if they are only a minority of thought, they believe their answer to living is the only way, regardless of proof from science or the majority. Frankly, I don’t think the average NOM commenter has the mental ability to understand the analysis involved in their conclusion for such studies. They simply eat up what they want to hear, and NOM does a good job of providing.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:19:52 +0000

I believe you Rob.

By: Victor

Victor — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:54:50 +0000

NOM is a classic example of people who spend too much time talking exclusively to each other, telling themselves what they want to hear, and congratulating themselves for being so astute. It doesn’t really matter what anybody else thinks. As the world moves on without them they will continue what they have always done. Their irrelevance won’t faze them a bit because, for the foreseeable future, there will be new people to give them money and tell them how right and brilliant they are. Their failures will only draw to them more of the same until it is just one guy left writing Post-It notes to himself.

By: Rob Tisinai

Rob Tisinai — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:56:51 +0000

No one seems to believe me, but I’ll offer this again: Once NOM can no longer count on putting marriage to a vote, they’ll start their own battle in the courts, claiming that marriage equality violates their religious liberty, and that any person (employers, etc.) should have the right to ignore such marriages if they violate their “sincerely held religious beliefs.”

They’ll lose, mind you, but they’ll try.

By: Mark F.

Mark F. — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:44:13 +0000

Truthspew,

I’d be in favor of putting our rights to a vote in RI because I’m fairly certain we would win! How would NOM account for that?

By: Truthspew

Truthspew — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:16:33 +0000

NOM always plays it fast and loose with numbers anyhow. On their NOM RI page I note they now say that only 78% of RI residents want to put our rights to a ballot vote.

First of all it’s relatively difficult to do that in RI. You need the house to vote on it and with the latest marriage equality vote, that’s not going to happen.

And the 78% – I said it’s down? They were running an add a couple years back that said 80% wanted to vote it on a ballot. I did a little what-if with the voter database. First of all a large proportion of voters lives in the urban areas – second of all only a small portion of those registered to vote actually do so. In the end I arrived at a potential 29%, so NOM is inflating the numbers yet again.

By: Rob Tisinai

Rob Tisinai — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:08:37 +0000

That’s for certain, Donny!

By: Donny D.

Donny D. — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:56:08 +0000

They may also think they’re smarter than they really are.

By: Rob Tisinai

Rob Tisinai — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:12:36 +0000

Truthfully, I think you guys are overestimating NOM’s basic analytical competence. I suspect they often (not always) have no idea that what they’re saying makes no sense. I believe one aspect of homophobia is that it makes people literally irrational.

By: Hunter

Hunter — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:07:03 +0000

“Wonder whether NOM is being dishonest or just incompetent.”

I’ll take “dishonest” for $1,000, Alex.