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	<title>Box Turtle Bulletin &#187; PFOX</title>
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		<title>PFOX Declares Victory in Court Defeat</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/25/14265</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[National Education Association]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[In March 2002, Parents and Friends of Exgays and Gays &#8211; an anti-gay political activist group &#8211; requested an exhibit booth space at the NEA annual convention, EXPO 2002 in Dallas, TX.  The NEA said, thanks but no thanks.
PFOX sued in the District of Columbia under the District&#8217;s very inclusive Human Rights Act claiming [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In March 2002, Parents and Friends of Exgays and Gays &#8211; an anti-gay political activist group &#8211; requested an exhibit booth space at the NEA annual convention, EXPO 2002 in Dallas, TX.  The NEA said, thanks but no thanks.</p>
<p>PFOX sued in the District of Columbia under the District&#8217;s very inclusive Human Rights Act claiming discrimination against ex-gays.  On May 24, 2005, the Office of Human Rights issued stated that PFOX had no probable cause because ex-gays are not members of a protected class under the HRA based on the plain language of the statute and even if PFOX was part of a protected class, NEA rejected PFOX’s application for non-discriminatory reasons.</p>
<p>PFOX appealed in federal court and on June 26, 2009, Federal Judge Maurice Ross <a href="http://pfox.org/Judge_Ross%27_Memorandum_Opinion.pdf">issued his opinion</a>.</p>
<p>The basis for OHR&#8217;s finding that ex-gays are not protected was that because PFOX denies that orientation is immutable, therefore they by definition were not discriminated against due to an immutable characteristic.  In other words, those who believe orientation to be innate are protected by non-discrimination laws while those who believe it is transitory are not.</p>
<p>While that is an amusing and ironic position, it didn&#8217;t fly with the judge.  Because the case was tried under D.C.&#8217;s HRA, there is no requirement for immutable characteristics.</p>
<blockquote><p>Indeed, the HRA lists numerous protected categories such as religion, personal appearance, familial status, and source of income, which are subject to change. The HRA’s purpose is “to secure an end in the District of Columbia to discrimination for any reason other than that of individual merit….”</p></blockquote>
<p>And it is on this partial finding that PFOX is declaring a great victory.  In their <a href="http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&#038;STORY=/www/story/08-25-2009/0005082437&#038;EDATE=">press release</a> today they announce:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a precedent setting case, the Superior Court of the District of Columbia has ruled that former homosexuals are a protected class that must be recognized under sexual orientation non-discrimination laws. The Court held that, under the D.C. Human Rights Act, sexual orientation does not require immutable characteristics.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, yes.  In the District of Columbia, one cannot be discriminated against solely because of their ex-gay practices.  </p>
<p>Nor should they be.  </p>
<p>We have long stated and truly believe that non-discrimination policies that protect happily gay men and women also protect heterosexuals and those same-sex attracted persons who now call themselves heterosexuals.  Ironically, it has been a standing practice of PFOX to oppose all non-discrimination policies under the claim that they discriminate against ex-gays.</p>
<p>However, as this ruling is based on D.C.&#8217;s HRA, it is limited to the District.  </p>
<p>And, most importantly, the judge found that it is perfectly reasonable for the NEA to exclude PFOX.  Because the NEA did not exclude them for being ex-gay, but rather because they have a disruptive political agenda that is contrary to that of the NEA.</p>
<blockquote><p>The NEA did not reject its application because PFOX’s members include exgays, homosexuals, heterosexuals, or members of any other sexual orientation. Rather, NEA rejected PFOX’s application because PFOX’s <strong>message and policies</strong> were, in NEA’s opinion, contrary to NEA’s policies regarding sexual orientation.</p></blockquote>
<p>So PFOX lost.</p>
<p>And their only &#8220;victory&#8221; was one that most gay folk would be willing to concede: that ex-gays should not be subject to discrimination <em>just for being ex-gay</em> but ex-gay political groups can be excluded because of their message.</p>
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		<title>PFOX and Exodus Part Ways</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/21/13495</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Anti-Gay Activists]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Aside]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Exodus International]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[PFOX]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Grove City College professor Warren Throckmorton has learned that Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays (PFOX) will no longer be affiliated with Exodus International. Exodus President Alan Chambers told Throckmorton that PFOX&#8217;s public policy activities do not fit in with the mission and direction of Exodus. David Roberts at Ex-Gay Watch is naturally puzzled [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grove City College professor Warren Throckmorton has learned that Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays (PFOX) will <a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/07/21/exodus-no-longer-affiliated-with-pfox/">no longer be affiliated with Exodus International</a>. Exodus President Alan Chambers told Throckmorton that PFOX&#8217;s public policy activities do not fit in with the mission and direction of Exodus. David Roberts at <em>Ex-Gay Watch</em> <a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2009/07/in-brief-pfox-no-longer-an-exodus-affiliate/">is naturally puzzled by that</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;[I[t seems rather strange as well that Chambers focuses on only this one (public policy) especially since this is an activity with which Exodus is quite familiar.  Still, Exodus has been desperately trying to change their image in this area, and mentioning it here could simply be an opportunity to use the PFOX news for that purpose.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Scott Lively: Following The Money</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/25/10079</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Anti-Gay Activists]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[NARTH]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Paul Cameron]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Peter LaBarbera]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Richard Cohen]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Living Stones]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is a well-known Holocaust revisionist able to gain so much cooperation among other anti-gay groups? Let&#8217;s follow the money.
Lively&#8217;s Pro Family Charitable Trust is an arm of his Abiding Truth Ministries, which is one of only twelve anti-gay hate groups listed by the the SPLC. A quick look at the trust&#8217;s contributions tell an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is a well-known Holocaust revisionist able to gain so much cooperation among other anti-gay groups? Let&#8217;s follow the money.</p>
<p>Lively&#8217;s Pro Family Charitable Trust is an arm of his Abiding Truth Ministries, which is one of <a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/type.jsp?DT=26">only twelve anti-gay hate groups</a> listed by the the SPLC. A quick look at the <a href="http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfct/grantees.php">trust&#8217;s contributions</a> tell an interesting story:</p>
<ul>
<li>NARTH received three grants totalling $2000.</li>
<li>The Jewish ex-gay group JONAH received a grant for $500.</li>
<li>Richard Cohen&#8217;s International Healing Foundation received a grant for $500.</li>
<li>Peter LaBarbera received two grants totally $2000.</li>
<li>Watchmen On the Walls, a group that was co-founded by Lively, received a grant for $500. The Watchmen are also listed among the SPLC&#8217;s <a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/type.jsp?DT=26">twelve anti-gay hate groups</a>.</li>
<li>Paul Cameron&#8217;s Family Research Institute received a grant for $300. The FRI is another of the SPLC&#8217;s anti-gay hate groups.</li>
<li>Exodus-Affiliated ministries receiving grants include Living Stones Ministry ($250), HIS Ministry ($500), and PFOX ($750).</li>
<li>Other notable recipients include San Diego ex-gay gadfly James Hartline ($500), Stephen Bennett ($500) and Linda Harvey&#8217;s web site, Mission America ($400).</li>
</ul>
<p>These must be considered minimum sums. The top grant is described as being the 31st grant on a page which only lists 28 grants, so this is clearly not a complete list.</p>
<p>It also appears not to be an up-to-date one either.<a href="http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2007/330/774/2007-330774765-04848890-9.pdf"> Abiding Truth Ministry&#8217;s 2007 IRS 990 form</a> (PDF; registration required) from Guidestar.org lists:</p>
<ul>
<li>an additional grant of $750 to Linda Harvey&#8217;s Mission America,</li>
<li>an additional grant of $300 to James Hartline</li>
<li>a grant of $1750 to the Pro Family Law Center in Temecula, California, a project of Lively&#8217;s Abiding Truth Ministries.</li>
</ul>
<p>Some of these values may not look like much, but most of these groups operate on a shoestring budget. Some are little more than volunteer operations much like our own vast conspiracy here at BTB (which consists only of a web site and four volunteers). So to many of these outfits, these contributions can be significant. Maybe that&#8217;s why Peter LaBarbera has been carrying Lively&#8217;s water the past few weeks.</p>
<p><em>[Hat tip: </em><a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/03/24/follow-the-money-pro-family-charitable-trust/"><em>Warren Throckmorton</em></a><em>]</em></p>
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		<title>AFA Launces Boycott Against Pepsi; Call Pepsi And Tell Them &#8220;Thank You&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/25/10073</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[American Family Association]]></category>
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The American Family Association has teamed up with PFOX to launch a boycott of all Pepsi products. They are upset over Pepsi&#8217;s support for Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG), which the AFA claims promotes &#8220;intolerance of the ex-gay community.&#8221; Which seems very strange to me. If there is such a thing [...]]]></description>
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<p>The American Family Association has teamed up with PFOX to launch a boycott of all Pepsi products. They are upset over Pepsi&#8217;s support for Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG), which the AFA claims promotes &#8220;intolerance of the ex-gay community.&#8221; Which seems very strange to me. If there is such a thing as an &#8220;ex-gay community,&#8221; it has to be among the most invisible communities in the world. Sort of like the &#8220;leprechaun community&#8221; or the &#8220;pixie community.&#8221; Besides I thought the &#8220;ex-gay community&#8221; was supposed to be the &#8220;straight community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, the AFA&#8217;s latest action alert, which is ironically titled, &#8220;Pepsi refuses to be neutral in the culture war,&#8221; says:</p>
<blockquote><p>By issuing national press releases against PFOX, by organizing protests at ex-gay conferences, by publishing anti-ex-gay literature, and by opposing ex-gays equal access to public venues, Pepsi-supported Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) contributes to the intolerance of the ex-gay community, stereotypes former homosexuals, and continually misrepresents PFOX’s mission.</p>
<p>PFLAG is a vocal and activist homosexual group that calls those who oppose homosexual marriage &#8220;the forces of prejudice and discrimination.&#8221; PFLAG not only cheered the California Supreme Court’s ruling on May 15 which legalized same-sex marriage, it was also vociferous in its opposition to Proposition 8, the ballot initiative which restored traditional marriage in California on Election Day.</p>
<p>By funding PFLAG, PepsiCo and its shareholders help promote fear and hostility against the ex-gay community and other heterosexuals. PepsiCo is the leading corporate sponsor of PFLAG.</p></blockquote>
<p>The AFA wants its members to call Pepsi&#8217;s corporate office to complain, and they want their members to call their nearest Pepsi bottling company. From what we hear, Pepsi is being bombarded with nasty phone calls.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s all call Pepsi (914-253-2000 or 1-800-433-2652) and tell them we appreciate their support and their refusal to bow to anti-gay extremists. The boycott also extends to other PepsiCo products, like Frito-Lay (800-352-4477), Quaker Oats (800-367-6287), Tropicana (800-237-7799) and Gatorade (800-884-2867).</p>
<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, call your local P<a href="http://www.boycottpepsico.com/pepsidistributors.aspx">epsi bottler and distributor</a>.</p>
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		<title>Richard Cohen Is Back In The PFOX and Exodus Orbit</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/26/9184</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Conversion Therapy & the “Ex-Gay” Movement]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Exodus International]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[PFOX]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Richard Cohen]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Alan Chambers]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Cohen is back and he&#8217;s on tour, with the full blessing of Exodus International member organization PFOX.
Two years ago, the ex-gay movement was widely embarrassed by Richard Cohen when in July 2006 he revealed his &#8220;holding&#8221; or &#8220;touch&#8221; techniques before a nationwide audience. It&#8217;s a controversial techniques that Cohen promotes through his International Healing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Cohen is back and he&#8217;s on tour, with the<a href="http://pfox.org/Richard-Cohen-national-tour.html"> full blessing of Exodus International member organization PFOX</a>.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CNN;Cohen.jpg" alt="" />Two years ago, the ex-gay movement was widely embarrassed by Richard Cohen when in July 2006 he revealed his <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2006/07/24/37" class="articleLink">&#8220;holding&#8221; or &#8220;touch&#8221; techniques before a nationwide audience</a>. It&#8217;s a controversial techniques that Cohen promotes through his International Healing Foundation. Cohen had also been president of the PFOX, but he was forced out after that CNN episode aired.</p>
<p>That embarrassment was compounded when in March 2007 <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/20/251" class="articleLink">he appeared on Comedy Central&#8217;s </a><em><a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/20/251" class="articleLink">The Daily Show</a>. </em>That prompted PFOX and NARTH to <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/31/265" class="articleLink">scrub their web sites</a> of all mention of him, and Exodus International <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070824095353/exodus.to/content/view/34/57/">publicly distanced themselves from his techniques</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Exodus International does not endorse the work of Richard Cohen or the methods utilized in his practice. Some of the techniques Mr. Cohen employs could be detrimental to an individual&#8217;s understanding of healthy relational boundaries and disruptive to the psychological and emotional development of men and women seeking clinical counsel and aid.</p></blockquote>
<p>That was wise, if belated. Five years earlier, Cohen had already been expelled from the American Counseling Association (ACA) for multiple ethical violations.</p>
<p>Well, that exile didn&#8217;t last long. Even though PFOX scrubbed their web site to pretend they had never heard of Cohen, we learned that just a few months later PFOX was <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/07/20/570" class="articleLink">referring &#8220;clients&#8221; to Richard Cohen&#8217;s International Healing Foundation</a>. Then last year came word of a <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/02/2307" class="articleLink">possible rapprochement between Exodus and Cohen</a>. That was quite a turnaround considering that Exodus International president Alan Chambers had <a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2007/03/exodus-president-alan-chambers-resigns-from-pfox-board/">resigned just a year ealier from PFOX&#8217;s board of directors</a> because they hadn&#8217;t distanced themselves enough from Cohen</p>
<p>And now PFOX, which through all of this has remained a member in good standing in Exodus&#8217;s referral network, is <a href="http://pfox.org/Richard-Cohen-national-tour.html">promoting Cohen&#8217;s &#8220;National Tour!&#8221;</a> &#8212; complete with exclamation marks. Actually, there are no tour dates set just yet. They&#8217;re still begging for people to invite him. But the timing&#8217;s no coincidence. Cohen will have a new book out, &#8220;Loving Gays the Right Way: The Other Side of Tolerance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, what would the other side of tolerance be?</p>
<p>To remind you of Cohen&#8217;s &#8220;healing&#8221; techniques, here&#8217;s a clip of Cohen on CNN.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/26/9184" class="articleLink"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
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		<title>Christine Bakke: Dreams Of A Daughter</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/17/8850</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Ex- Ex-Gays]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Beyond Ex-Gay]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ex-gay survivor Christine Bakke recently discovered a post that her mother wrote for PFOX, an ex-gay organization. While Christine has left the ex-gay life behind, her mother, quite obviously, is still clinging to the hope that Christine will someday cast aside her integrity to live in the pretend world of the ex-gay movement.
Understandably, Christine&#8217;s relationship [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-8851" title="Christine Bakke" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/christinebakke-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" />Ex-gay survivor Christine Bakke recently discovered a post that her <a href="http://pfox.org/mom_speaks_out.html">mother wrote for PFOX</a>, an ex-gay organization. While Christine has left the ex-gay life behind, her mother, quite obviously, is still clinging to the hope that Christine will someday cast aside her integrity to live in the pretend world of the ex-gay movement.</p>
<p>Understandably, Christine&#8217;s relationship with her mother is strained, although she points out that her living as a lesbian isn&#8217;t the only issue. While Christine <a href="http://rising-up.blogspot.com/2009/02/dreams-of-daughter.html">doesn&#8217;t want to play out</a> the details of their estrangement over public blogs and web sites, she nevertheless recognizes that &#8220;my parents didn&#8217;t have a choice in me <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/10/282" class="articleLink">going public with my story</a>. So they&#8217;re well within their right to write about me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered how I would respond if my own mother had spoken out publicly against me. I hope that I, too, would recognize that she has the right to do so. But it&#8217;s hard to imagine what sort of interpretations I&#8217;d put on her motivations. Rejection? Certainly. And fear, probably. But I do think I&#8217;d see a misguided love underneath all that. I don&#8217;t know whether it would make it easier to understand (she does love me, after all, no matter how misguided) or harder (sensing a love with conditions will never be easy to deal with). But mostly, I think my reaction would be anger &#8212; at those who are encouraging her on the path of estrangement, people who have neither her nor my best interests at heart</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know what my reaction would be. Fortunately, I haven&#8217;t had to deal with that situation. Perhaps that&#8217;s because I didn&#8217;t try to go through the organized ex-gay route. There wasn&#8217;t anyone there to hold out false hope to my mother that I could change.</p>
<p>Every family is different. And in Christine&#8217;s case, while she has left the ex-gay movement and has become an outspoken critic of it, her mother is still fully ensconced in one of the <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/tag/pfox" class="articleLink">more rejecting and confrontational expressions</a> of that anti-gay movement. She is still being encouraged to look for magic signs and snow angel wonders to show that someday Christine will forget all she knows and go back to a life of denial and misery.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known Christine for more than two years now, and I have always found her gentle heart to be filled with thoughtful consideration for other people. So I couldn&#8217;t help but be moved by how <a href="http://rising-up.blogspot.com/2009/02/dreams-of-daughter.html">she responded to her mother&#8217;s post</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Although saying that they love me unconditionally, in the <a href="http://www.glamour.com/sex-love-life/2007/04/gay-therapy">Glamour</a> article my mom said, &#8220;When you rock your baby in your arms, you never think one day my daughter will be homosexual and want to have sex with another woman, never have children. No one holds their baby and says maybe they’ll grow up to be a rapist, or this or that. You have dreams for your children.”</p>
<p>Well you know what? Children have dreams for their parents, too. You don&#8217;t lay in your parent&#8217;s arms and think that you&#8217;ll have to defend yourself from them thinking you are lost and damned eternally. You don&#8217;t cuddle up and think that one day you&#8217;ll find out that they believe that who you are is synonymous with being a rapist. I certainly didn&#8217;t have those dreams for my parents. What I did dream instead was that I might be able to express my concerns and be heard. I dreamed that I would be always cherished and deemed worthy of their love and respect, no matter my beliefs. I dreamed that I would be supported in living a life that was truly authentic and truly mine, without the haunting thoughts about what a disappointment I am to them. Those dreams have had to die.</p></blockquote>
<p>Christine is willing to meet her parents where they are. &#8220;I&#8217;ve often told people that I don&#8217;t mind if they think I&#8217;m going to hell, just treat me with respect, love and dignity and we can have a relationship regardless,&#8221; she wrote. Obviously, that&#8217;s not enough. For many ex-gay survivors, the only route to reconciliation is total capitulation. If only her parents &#8212; and the ironically dubbed &#8220;pro-family&#8221; anti-gay forces which are sustaining a key component of this estrangement &#8212; could meet her where she is. If they did, they would find an amazing daughter that any parent would be proud of.</p>
<p>Why must that be so hard?</p>
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		<title>PFOX Billboard Removed</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/26/7667</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Tucson AZ]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Wingspan]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of weeks ago, complaints began to pour in over a billboard for PFOX, which was put up as a &#8220;public service&#8221; by Clear Channel Outdoors along the I-19 corridor in Tucson. Fortunately, Wingspan, Tucson&#8217;s LGBT community center, was able to get the billboard removed, but without an explanation of why it was put [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago, complaints began to pour in over a billboard for PFOX, which was put up as a &#8220;public service&#8221; by Clear Channel Outdoors along the I-19 corridor in Tucson. Fortunately, Wingspan, Tucson&#8217;s LGBT community center, was able to get the billboard removed, but without an explanation of why it was put up in the first place. Here&#8217;s the KVOA-TV report:</p>
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<em>[Hat tip: Jason Cianciotto at <a href="http://www.wingspan.org/content/news_wingspan_details.php?story_id=593">Wingspan</a>]</em></p>
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		<title>Regina Griggs: Ex-gays &#8220;Most Bullied and Maligned In America&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/14/3771</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Anti-Gay Activists]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regina Griggs, past LaBarbara Award winner, has out out another press release under her PFOX banner, announcing that they are suing the Washington D.C. Office of Human Rights for &#8220;failing to protect former homosexuals under its sexual orientation anti-discrimination law.&#8221; And get this:
The ex-gay community is the most bullied and maligned group in America, yet [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina Griggs, past <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741" class="articleLink">LaBarbara Award winner,</a> has out out another press release under her PFOX banner, announcing that they are suing the Washington D.C. Office of Human Rights for &#8220;failing to protect former homosexuals under its sexual orientation anti-discrimination law.&#8221; <a href="http://markets.chron.com/chron?GUID=6845364&amp;Page=MediaViewer&amp;ChannelID=3197">And get this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The ex-gay community is the most bullied and maligned group in America, yet they are not protected by sexual orientation non-discrimination laws,&#8221; said Regina Griggs, PFOX executive director.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Former homosexuals and their friends have been fired from their jobs, repeatedly ridiculed, assaulted, and intimidated. This harassment is most often perpetrated by the same groups who demand protection under sexual orientation laws but work to deny ex-gays the same respect.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Really? The ex-gay community <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/14/780" title="Scotty Joe Weaver" class="articleLink">is</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/18/3010"title="Tony Hunter"  class="articleLink">the</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,004.htm"title="Daniel Fetty"  class="articleLink">most</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/10/3541"title="Seven Domer"  class="articleLink">bullied</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/11/2189"title="Sean Kennedy"  class="articleLink">and</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/19/3017"title="Angie Zapata"  class="articleLink">maligned</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/28/2440"title="Knoxville Church Shooting"  class="articleLink">group</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/11/21/1034"title="Michael Sandy"  class="articleLink">in</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/02/1565"title="Simmie Williams, Jr."  class="articleLink">America?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/12/3605" title="Matthew Shepard" class="articleLink">Really, Regina?</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/14/1431"title="Larry King"  title="Larry King" class="articleLink">Are you serious?</a></p>
<p><em>Chutzpah</em> isn&#8217;t a strong enough word to describe this outrage. I am truly at a loss for words. I&#8217;ll let you take over in the comments.</p>
<p>Please provide examples of LGBT people and/or ex-gays being bullied, murdered, or fired from their jobs. I&#8217;m all ears.</p>
<p><em>[Hat tip: Stefano]</em></p>
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		<title>AFA&#8217;s Misquoting of the CDC</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2479</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[American Family Association]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Anti-Gay Activists]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Aside]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[PFOX]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[HIV/AIDS Statistics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[We commented earlier on an article in AFA&#8217;s OneNewsNow in which Regina Griggs displayed astonishing ignorance about the HIV infection rates of gay youth.  Now the editors at AFA have amended the article
Over 70 percent of young kids 13- to 24-years-old, men having sex with men, are now HIV-positive,&#8221; Griggs notes. (see editor&#8217;s note)
and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We commented earlier on an article in AFA&#8217;s OneNewsNow in which <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468" class="articleLink">Regina Griggs displayed astonishing ignorance about the HIV infection rates of gay youth</a>.  Now the editors at AFA have <a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=192536">amended the article</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Over 70 percent of young kids 13- to 24-years-old, men having sex with men, are now HIV-positive,&#8221; Griggs notes. (see editor&#8217;s note)</p></blockquote>
<p>and the editor&#8217;s note reads</p>
<blockquote><p>In June of 2007 the Centers for Disease Control stated that homosexual sex accounted for 71 percent of all HIV infections.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well now that&#8217;s an interesting statistic (though entirely irrelevant to Grigg&#8217;s claim).  But what do they mean?</p>
<p>Is AFA saying that homosexual sex accounted for 71 percent of recent infections?  The <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2005report/pdf/2005SurveillanceReport.pdf">CDC Report</a> (pdf) states:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>MSM (49%)</strong> and persons exposed through high-risk heterosexual contact (32%) accounted for 81% of all HIV/AIDS cases diagnosed in 2005. [the most recent year reported ; emphasis added]</p></blockquote>
<p>Is AFA saying that homosexual sex accounted for 71 percent of total persons living with HIV/AIDS?</p>
<blockquote><p>By sex, 73% of adults and adolescents living with HIV/AIDS were male.</p>
<p>Of the estimated 341,524 male adults and adolescents living with HIV/AIDS, <strong>61% had been exposed through male-to-male sexual contact</strong>, 18% had been exposed through injection drug use, 13% had been exposed through high risk heterosexual contact, and <strong>7% had been exposed through both male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use</strong>. <em>[In other words, <strong>half</strong>:  (61% + 7%) * 73% = 50% ; emphasis added]</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Although the report provides information by ethnicity, location, age at transmission, cumulative deaths, and much more, I was unable to find any statistic that could be interpreted to state that &#8220;homosexual sex accounted for 71 percent of all HIV infections&#8221;.</p>
<p>(hat tip to reader Neil H)</p>
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		<title>PFOX&#8217;s Griggs Goes Off the Deep End</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Anti-Gay Activists]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[PFOX (Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays) claims to be a support group of parents and others that support and work for the interests of their ex-gay children and friends.  However, a closer look at their activism reveals that they are comprised mostly of a handful of ex-gays, a few parents that wish [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pfox.org/">PFOX</a> (Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays) claims to be a support group of parents and others that support and work for the interests of their ex-gay children and friends.  However, a closer look at their activism reveals that they are comprised mostly of a handful of ex-gays, a few parents that wish their children were not gay, and some others who just want to “fight the homosexual agenda”.</p>
<p>And while there may be a place for an organization that fights for civil inclusion for those who identify as ex-gay, this group does not fulfill that function.</p>
<p>Ex-gays face discrimination and hostility in society – most of it based on perceptions and stereotypes.  It is not unknown for ex-gay men to appear less masculine or ex-gay women to appear more so than social norms may expect.  And while they may have religious objections to homosexuality, many of the employment, housing, and other protections that gay people seek would also benefit those ex-gays who may appear to be gender atypical.  So any organization seeking to better the lives of ex-gays could find common cause with the LGBT community on a number of issues.</p>
<p>But PFOX has no interest in common cause.  Or even in the civil protections of ex-gays.</p>
<p>PFOX pays but nominal attention to ex-gays and instead expends its efforts in seeking to restrict services and information for gay people, primarily youth.  And they have <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/category/converstion-reparative-therapy/pfox" class="articleLink">a long history of showing little regard for truth, decency, or integrity in their efforts</a>.</p>
<p>They have distorted the work of reputable scientists, made wild accusations against various schools and youth programs, manufactured “attacks” by gay activists, hurled vile insults against those who disagree with them, and, most recently <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/22/2404" class="articleLink">mangled research to exploit suicide statistics for political positioning</a>.</p>
<p>But now Regina Griggs, and PFOX, have bested themselves.  They now have made a claim so phenomenally ridiculous, so homophobic (in the traditional sense of the word), that even anti-gays should be driven to mocking them.</p>
<p>As reported by <a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=192536">the American Family Association’s OneNewsNow</a>, Griggs opposes Gay-Straight Alliances and other safe spaces for gay teens:</p>
<blockquote><p>Research shows that individuals often go through periods of gender and sexual confusion as they grow from children to teenagers to adults. Griggs wonders why, then, would schools opt to send children along a dangerous path. &#8220;Why are we allowing people to tell them, &#8216;Try it &#8212; you might like it?&#8217; Over 70 percent of young kids 13- to 24-years-old, men having sex with men, are now HIV-positive,&#8221; Griggs notes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seventy Percent?</p>
<p>That claim is phenomenally stupid, even by anti-gay standards.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/07/pfox_lies_about_teens_with_hiv.php">Ed Brayton at ScienceBlogs.com</a> notes:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the 2000 census figures, there are roughly 50 million people between the age of 13 and 24. Slightly more than half would be female, so let&#8217;s say conservatively that there are 22 million men between those ages. If 2% of them are MSM, that&#8217;s 440,000. The percentage of HIV positive MSM between 13 and 24 is more like 3.1%, a far cry from 70%. Okay, it&#8217;s probably a bit higher than that because there will be some men in that age group who were diagnosed before 2001, but at the absolute outside we&#8217;re talking 5%, not 70%.</p></blockquote>
<p>I might calculate using different variables, but Brayton is right.  HIV infection in gay youth, or even in sexually active gay youth, is FAR from 70%.</p>
<p>Griggs is either a wanton liar or a raging loon.  Perhaps both.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong></p>
<p>I calculate around 0.7% of all gay youth aged 13 to 24 are now HIV-positive.</p>
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