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		<title>Ex-Gay Survivors To March In Sydney&#8217;s Mardi Gras</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony Venn-Brown, of Australia&#8217;s Freedom 2 b[e] is organizing a group of ex-gay survivors to march in the February 27 Sydney Mardi Gras Parade. Sydney&#8217;s Mardi Gras is the perhaps the largest gay pride celebration in the world, and Anthony explains why participating can be such a healing experience for former ex-gays:
People who are same-sex-orientated [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.freedom2b.org/topic/623"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-20124" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/126-300x121.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="121" /></a>Anthony Venn-Brown, of Australia&#8217;s Freedom 2 b[e] is <a href="http://www.freedom2b.org/topic/623">organizing a group of ex-gay survivors</a> to march in the February 27 Sydney Mardi Gras Parade. Sydney&#8217;s Mardi Gras is the perhaps the largest gay pride celebration in the world, and Anthony explains why participating can be such a healing experience for former ex-gays:</p>
<blockquote><p>People who are same-sex-orientated often feel societal and family pressures to resist, reject or deny their true feelings.  <strong>This pressure to conform and live as heterosexuals is much more intense for those who come from faith backgrounds and Christian churches</strong>, as the belief system says that acceptance or rejection of their sexuality has eternal consequences. Struggling to change can be private and internal, through one on one personal counselling or support groups. <strong>Some of us have even gone to the extremes of exorcisms, ‘ex-gay’ programs or marrying, believing this will solve our ‘problem’. </strong>The journey to find resolution and self–acceptance for gay men and lesbians from Christian backgrounds can be torturous and even traumatic.</p>
<p>&#8230;Marching in the Mardi Gras parade or a Pride march is often <strong>an empowering experience </strong>and an opportunity to put the shame and the ‘demons’ of the past to rest by publicly declaring that <strong>we are out, proud and love being who we are</strong>; lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.</p>
<p><strong>Our message is a positive one;</strong> celebrating our journeys to resolution and self-acceptance. By<strong> marching together we also send a positive message to people in churches </strong>who are still locked in a prison of self-hatred.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in marching with Freedom 2 b[e], you can find more information <a href="http://www.freedom2b.org/topic/623">at their web site</a>. I know I would give my eye teeth to be there.</p>
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		<title>Growing Up Gay Attending Coastline Bible Church, Day III of IV</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/08/15247</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Gonzales</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is today&#8217;s installment of my series looking at my childhood church&#8217;s harmful teachings which ultimately lead me to seek out ex-gay therapy.
What does refusing to believe in evolution have in common with ex-gay programs?  A willingness to ignore the vast body of scientific evidence in favor of your faith.

I should add that in middle [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is today&#8217;s installment of my series looking at my childhood church&#8217;s harmful teachings which ultimately lead me to seek out ex-gay therapy.</p>
<p>What does refusing to believe in evolution have in common with ex-gay programs?  <em>A willingness to ignore the vast body of scientific evidence in favor of your faith.</em></p>
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<p>I should add that in middle school youth group we were once shown an apologetics video about creation/evolution.  This inspired me to ask numerous pesky questions during my 7th grade science teacher&#8217;s short and basic lesson on evolution to the point where she actually lost her cool and near well yelled at me during class.  Writing this post prompted me to track her down on facebook and apologize and let her know that after additional and more advanced lessons in evolution later in my academic career I came to see how intellectually bankrupt &#8220;creation science&#8221; is.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15200" class="articleLink">Part I, &#8220;What My Church Taught Me About My Sexuality&#8221;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/07/15226" class="articleLink">Part II, &#8220;The Harm Of Trying To Fit Into Someone Else&#8217;s Mold&#8221;</a><br />
Part III, &#8220;Distrusting Science When It Doesn&#8217;t Agree With Your Faith&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/09/15297" class="articleLink">Part IV, &#8220;Gender Conformity And Giving In To Peer Pressure&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>Growing Up Gay Attending Coastline Bible Church, Day II of IV</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Gonzales</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is today&#8217;s installment of my series looking at my childhood church&#8217;s harmful teachings which ultimately lead me to seek out ex-gay therapy.
Churches like Coastline Bible Church like to present a single model for what makes up an acceptable family &#8212; this is generally at the expense of single parent households, other family members raising [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is today&#8217;s installment of my series looking at my childhood church&#8217;s harmful teachings which ultimately lead me to seek out ex-gay therapy.</p>
<p>Churches like Coastline Bible Church like to present a single model for what makes up an acceptable family &#8212; this is generally at the expense of single parent households, other family members raising kids, blended families, unmarried partners, people who remain single or don&#8217;t procreate, and of course LGBT folk like me.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s video looks at how the church sends the message to non-conformers like me that I am inferior unless I bend my life to fit their model.  As you&#8217;ll see bending one&#8217;s life to such extreme degrees can result in things breaking.</p>
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<p>There&#8217;s a term for this attitude, <em>Heterosexism</em>: the presumption that straight two-parent households are superior to all other family life arrangements.  And in case you haven&#8217;t already heard about it, Soulforce, Box Turtle Bulletin, Truth Wins Out and a few other groups are having an entire conference about the underlying heterosexism of exgay programs next in Florida called the <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/anti-heterosexism-conference">Anti-Heterosexism Conference</a>.  Of course I&#8217;ll be there.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15200" class="articleLink">Part I, &#8220;What My Church Taught Me About My Sexuality&#8221;</a><br />
Part II, &#8220;The Harm Of Trying To Fit Into Someone Else&#8217;s Mold&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/08/15247" class="articleLink">Part III, &#8220;Distrusting Science When It Doesn&#8217;t Agree With Your Faith&#8221;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/09/15297" class="articleLink">Part IV, &#8220;Gender Conformity And Giving In To Peer Pressure&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>Growing Up Gay Attending Coastline Bible Church, Day I of IV</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15200</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Gonzales</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I entered middle school my family switched to Coastline Bible Church (known then as First Baptist Church Ventura) because it had a more active youth program.  What my parents were not aware of were the radical right wing ideas and anti-gay gospel taught at the church which even filtered down into youth programs.
As an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I entered middle school my family switched to <a href="http://www.coastlinebible.org/">Coastline Bible Church</a> (known then as First Baptist Church Ventura) because it had a more active youth program.  What my parents were not aware of were the radical right wing ideas and anti-gay gospel taught at the church which even filtered down into youth programs.</p>
<p>As an ex-gay survivor activist I have spent the last several years telling my story of having gone though ex-gay therapy but have never elaborated much on how my church&#8217;s teachings affected my decision to pursue therapy.</p>
<p>This series of short videos will run through the end of the week.  Today I present day I, <em>&#8220;What My Church Taught Me About My Sexuality.&#8221;</em></p>
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<p>Far too many gay youth who grow up attending church are taught horrible, awful, terrible things about their own sexuality.  For me to say that 15 years ago I was taught homosexuality was simply &#8220;wrong&#8221; would be silly.  Rather I prefer to illustrate how I learned about homosexuality in church, by recalling specific incidents that would shape the rest of my life.</p>
<p>I believe the years of anti-gay teachings I endured as a minor at this church amounts to psychological child abuse &#8212; To not tell my story and how my life was harmed by my church&#8217;s teachings would be a disservice to other gay youth currently enduring the same thing.</p>
<p>Part I, &#8220;What My Church Taught Me About My Sexuality&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/07/15226" class="articleLink">Part II, &#8220;The Harm Of Trying To Fit Into Someone Else&#8217;s Mold&#8221;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/08/15247" class="articleLink">Part III, &#8220;Distrusting Science When It Doesn&#8217;t Agree With Your Faith&#8221;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/09/15297" class="articleLink">Part IV, &#8220;Gender Conformity And Giving In To Peer Pressure&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>Time&#8217;s Running Out For Early Registration for 2009 Anti-Heterosexism Conference</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/02/15127</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Time is running out to save on early registration for the 2009 Anti-Heterosexism conference scheduled for Nov 20-22 in West Palm Beach, Florida. You can save $50 by registering by Monday, October 5th. On October 6th, conference fees go up from $145 to $195. This conference is sponsored by Soulforce, Beyond Ex-Gay,  Truth Wins Out, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is running out to save on early registration for the <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/anti-heterosexism-conference">2009 Anti-Heterosexism conference</a> scheduled for Nov 20-22 in West Palm Beach, Florida. You can save $50 by <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/sendstudio/link.php?M=8085&amp;N=740&amp;L=2118&amp;F=H">registering</a> by Monday, October 5th. On October 6th, conference fees go up from $145 to $195. This conference is sponsored by <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/">Soulforce</a>, <a href="http://beyondexgay.com/">Beyond Ex-Gay</a>,  <a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org">Truth Wins Out</a>, <a href="http://eqfl.org/">Equality Florida</a>, the <a href="http://nbjc.org/">National Black Justice Coalition</a>, and <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com" class="articleLink">Box Turtle Bulletin</a>.</p>
<p>So what is this &#8220;heterosexism&#8221; we&#8217;ll be talking about? Jeff Lutes, Executive Director for Soulforce, describes the conference this way:</p>
<blockquote><p>First off, it’s important to be clear that the title of the conference is the Anti-Heterosexism Conference, not anti-heterosexual. Heterosexism is the widespread assumption that heterosexual relationships are somehow superior to same-sex relationships, which leads to all kinds of abuse and discrimination against LGBT people. We want to highlight where heterosexism seeps into the social, cultural, religious and political fabric of society, and how we can begin to unravel its damaging consequences.</p></blockquote>
<p>One way we see heterosexism come into play is in the <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/20/14149" class="articleLink">attitudes which lead LGBT people to try to change their sexual orientation.</a>These efforts are nearly always futile. The American Psychological Association recently issued a rigorous review of 83 studies on efforts to change sexual orientation conducted between 1960 and 2007, and they now advise psychologists to avoid telling their clients that therapy or other treatments can change them from gay to straight. With great effort, they may be able to modify their behavior, and they can always change their identity (&#8221;I&#8217;m not &#8216;gay&#8217; anymore, even though I still like guys.&#8221;) But practitioners who offer <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/12/290" class="articleLink">ironclad promises</a> to change sexual attractions are not only hiding the truth, but they are violating APA recommendations as well.</p>
<p>Mark Yarhouse, one half of the <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/12/13990" class="articleLink">Jones and Yarhouse ex-gay study team</a> whose work has been <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/07/13944" class="articleLink">hailed by NARTH</a> and <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/15/784" class="articleLink">Exodus</a> as proof that &#8220;change is possible,&#8221; has conceded that the APA&#8217;s <a href="http://hamptonroads.com/2009/09/regent-scholar-dont-focus-gay-conversion">stance is correct</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;For me, in my own practice, I would not focus on change of orientation,&#8221; said Yarhouse, a psychologist and counselor who teaches at Regent, an evangelical Christian school.</p>
<p>&#8230;Yarhouse&#8217;sstudy focused on those who said their same-sex attractions collided with their religious beliefs. He said his research found that there was &#8220;modest&#8221; movement away from homosexuality among some Exodus participants, but categorical conversions to heterosexuality were rare.</p>
<p>Yarhouse recommended that counselors avoid uniformly steering struggling gays toward heterosexuality and focus instead on the best outcome for the individual.</p>
<p>That could include celibacy or exploring different faith groups with various attitudes toward gays and lesbians, he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>NARTH completely rejects that finding, and are instead holding a conference in West Palm Beach to push their <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/30/13625" class="articleLink">unscientific</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/07/13944" class="articleLink">worldview</a>. They are very skilled at getting media attention and putting on a professional face. And you can bet that they won&#8217;t exercise the kind of candor exhibited by Mark Yarhouse.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s extremely important for us to be there to present the facts behind efforts to change sexual orientation. Many of those in attendance will include those who tried to change but failed, including some who were <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/01/1908" class="articleLink">former</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/03/1933" class="articleLink">patients</a> of NARTH co-founder, Joseph Nicolosi.</p>
<p>I hope you will join me and BTB contributors Gabriel Arana and Daniel Gonzales for three days of inspiring and informative workshops on the issues surrounding attempts to change sexual orientation and the heterosexist attitudes which underlie many of those attempts. Featured speakers are Dr. Sylvia Rhue, interim Executive Director of the <a href="http://www.nbjc.org/">National Black Justice Coalition</a>, <a href="http://www.jackdreschermd.net/">Dr. Jack Drescher</a>, Distinguished Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, and Rev. Deborah L. Johnson of <a href="http://www.deborahjohnson.org/">Inner Light Ministries</a>. Through the weekend, the conference will equip attendees from all across the country on ways in which they can challenge heterosexist attitudes and practices, understand the harms of conversion therapy efforts and the unscientific principles which propel them, and become strong advocates for LGBT equality.</p>
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		<title>Part II of a Clear Comparison: Scientology and Ex-Gay Programs</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/09/29/13887</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Gonzales</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part I, &#8220;Pseudo-psychology and selling hope for unrealistic change&#8221; can be found here.

A direct comparison
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<div id="attachment_14981" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-14981" title="freewinds2" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/freewinds21-300x424.jpg" alt="Frustrated with your slow progress moving up the Bridge To Total Freedom? Then book a cruise on Scientology's very own private ship, the Freewinds.  The above ad states it's an experience that's guaranteed to be &quot;completely theta&quot; and free of &quot;enturbulation!&quot;" width="300" height="424" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Frustrated with your slow progress moving up the Bridge To Total Freedom? Then book a trip on Scientology&#39;s own private cruise ship, MV Freewinds.  The above ad states it&#39;s an experience that&#39;s sure to be &quot;completely theta&quot; and free of &quot;enturbulation!&quot;</p></div>
<p><strong>A direct comparison</strong></p>
<p>When I first began reading the stories of former Scientologists I was captivated by the similarities to those of ex-gay survivors.  Both groups of people made huge investments seeking to change their lives and both groups of people must eventually confront the fact that the sort of changes they were promised are not possible.</p>
<p>Ex-gays and Scientologists:</p>
<ul>
<li>Both can invest huge sums of money in the endeavor. <em>(Some ex-gay services are low-cost or even zero cost but good luck getting a free copy of Dianetics or free audit-counseling.)</em></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both are desperate for major change and improvement in their lives, however unrealistic.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both spend years of their life involved in programs.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both sever ties with family members and friends who are not supportive or critical. <em>(Scientology even gives the policy a name, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disconnection">disconnection</a>.)</em></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both are sometimes drawn into programs initially to control peripheral problems like substance abuse. <em>(Scientology has  recruitment programs called <a href="http://www.narconon.org/">Narconon</a> and <a href="http://www.criminon.org/">Criminon</a> and admitting Scientology doesn&#8217;t work would call into question the program which helped you initially get your life back together.)</em></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both are constantly bombarded by stories of success cases from those around you in the programs. <em>(In Scientology these are called &#8220;<a href="http://www.torymagoo.org/itsawin.htm">wins</a>&#8221; and after each program you are expected to share yours.)</em></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both experience the greatest sense of change (or &#8220;wins&#8221;) at the beginning and spend the rest of their time chasing after the hope of more success.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both find that admitting you&#8217;re having difficulty in a program or reporting a lack of success will result in huge hassle and additional expenses.  <em>(Cause enough trouble as a Scientologist and you can be sent to their slave labor camp called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehabilitation_Project_Force">Rehabilitation Project Force</a>.)</em></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Both distrust the mainstream mental health establishment.  <em>(Scientology created the <a href="http://www.cchr.org/">Psychiatry Museum of Death</a> in Hollywood and an anti-psychiatry hate group called <a href="http://www.cchr.org/">Citizens Commission On Human Rights</a>.  It&#8217;s not just me calling it a hate group, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pu0iVjJGwE">APA President Nada Stotland calls it that</a>.)</em></li>
</ul>
<div id="attachment_14941" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-14941" title="narconon-case-supervisor" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/narconon-case-supervisor-300x403.jpg" alt="narconon-case-supervisor" width="300" height="403" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Narconon is one of many gateway and recruitment programs based on the foundational teachings of Scientology.</p></div>
<p><strong>The numbers</strong></p>
<p>Before we move on to the next section filled with anecdotal quotes let&#8217;s have a look at some statistics regarding how many people buy into Scientology&#8217;s promises and for how long.  TruthAboutScientology.com analyzes data published by the Church of Scientology about which members pass various classes and levels.  TruthAboutScientology.com reports <strong><a href="http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/ccint/prelimanalysis.html#clearoneyear">65% of Scientologists become inactive within one year of achieving Clear</a></strong>. For those who continue on to the Operating Thetan levels 35% become inactive after completing their first OT level with an additional 5% becoming inactive with each subsequent year.</p>
<p>Dare I say it&#8217;s because they realize they&#8217;ve been had?  That despite the <a href="http://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part03/Chp13/pg0245.html">church&#8217;s own definition</a> people who achieve the level of Clear are forced to confront the fact they still experience <em>&#8220;fears, anxieties and irrational thoughts&#8221;</em> like all human beings.  And for the OT&#8217;s they realize they&#8217;re not gaining the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_abilities_in_Scientology_doctrine">supernatural abilities they were expecting</a>?</p>
<div id="attachment_14991" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-14991" title="Beghe" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Beghe-300x204.jpg" alt="Jason Beghe, formerly an OT 5 level Scientologist turned critic." width="300" height="204" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jason Beghe, formerly an OT 5 level Scientologist turned critic. Image from Xenu TV.</p></div>
<p><strong>Jason Beghe<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Former Scientologist and actor Jason Beghe <a href="http://xenutv.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/jason-beghe-interview/">gave an exhaustive two hour interview</a> to anti-Scientology website <a href="http://www.xenutv.com/">Xenu TV</a> and provided some amazing quotes that could just as easily be about what keeps someone in an ex-gay program and brilliantly illustrate the above bullet points.  All of the following quotes from Beghe are from that Xenu TV interview.</p>
<p>About achieving the most success at the beginning of a program and then just hoping for more later on:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The biggest win I ever had in Scientology was on that first day.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>About not wanting to admit your huge investment of time and money has been for a fraud:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The best traps, you get a guy to just keep himself in jail, right&#8230; and that&#8217;s what Scientology does, you just keep yourself in jail and that&#8217;s it, it&#8217;s a perfect theta trap, because you believe it, you&#8217;re investing your time and your money, so you can&#8217;t be a fool, that&#8217;s too much to confront.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The ex-gay movement has had it&#8217;s fair share of high profile falls from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paulk">John Paulk getting caught in a gay bar</a> to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2PLPyKmtas">two of Exodus&#8217; founders leaving their wives for each other</a>.  Jason Beghe experienced the same sort of disillusion at seeing high level Scientologists whos&#8217; behavior failed to match their prestigious position in the church:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>All these f*cking OT&#8217;s that aren&#8217;t OT.  [I'm like] that&#8217;s a f*cking OT?</em></p>
<p>[interviewer:] <em>And what&#8217;s an OT supposed to be?</em></p>
<p><em>Someone who&#8217;s at least able, someone who can at least walk and chew gum. I mean there&#8217;s people who are OT that are some of the most incompetent stupid people, my definition of stupid doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with data or education, it has to do with being able to say&#8230; I mean I&#8217;m talking about people putting their hand on the stove and saying &#8220;hey hey hey my hand is hot!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>[snip]</p>
<p><em> </em><em>I know people that are trouble to death and they just finished OT 8 and they have migraines</em><em>. Migraines</em><em>?!?!  A f*cking Clear [mid level Scientologist] doesn&#8217;t have migraines</em><em>, this is an OT 8 for God&#8217;s sake.  Migraines</em><em>?!?!  Migraines</em><em> is an engram that you can handle in&#8230; </em>[trails off mockingly]</p></blockquote>
<div id="attachment_14997" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-14997" title="OT-panel" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/OT-panel-300x123.jpg" alt="OT-panel" width="300" height="123" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Images Xenu TV&#39;s panel of former OT 7&#39;s. From left to right: Greg Barnes, Debra Barnes, Tory Bezazian.  I LOVE listening to Tory speak, she&#39;s like the Peterson Toscano of ex-Scientologists. </p></div>
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<p><strong>The OT Panel</strong></p>
<p>In the year 2000, <a href="http://www.xenutv.com/blog/?cat=177">Xenu TV assembled a panel of four former Scientologists</a> who all achieved level OT 7, the church&#8217;s second highest level.  These people provided amazing insight as to why they chose to continue to believe in Scientology even when they started having doubts.  All of the following quotes are from Xenu TV&#8217;s <a href="http://www.xenutv.com/blog/?p=210">OT Panel video</a>.</p>
<p>About keeping your mouth shut when you&#8217;re not experiencing success:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Debra:] <em>I never really told anybody at flag [Scientology headquarters] that I wasn&#8217;t doing well on that level because then I&#8217;d have to write another check.  And I kind of learned early on in the level there were certain things that one never said because one got hassled if one did, or it cost one money, or cost one time, and there was never any resolution to it anyways.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>About thinking you&#8217;re &#8220;just not doing it right&#8221; while being bombarded with others&#8217; expectations and stories of success:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Tory:] <em>I just kept thinking, &#8220;well maybe it&#8217;s something that I&#8217;m not doing right.&#8221;  And I kept trying and you&#8217;ve got all this agreement, &#8220;this is a fabulous level,&#8221; and people are telling you, &#8220;yeah you&#8217;re on OT 7 this is really gunna do it.&#8221; </em></p>
<p><em>And it wasn&#8217;t doing it for me, it was in fact getting worse and worse and worse, so it&#8217;s a major reason why I left.</em></p>
<p>[snip]</p>
<p><em>People sit on the level just like we did for 7 years or longer and go &#8220;it might be right because everyone is having so many wins.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This one stands on it&#8217;s own:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Greg:] <em>We don&#8217;t have to justify the things that don&#8217;t make sense anymore.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>About losing the life you&#8217;ve built around being a Scientologist:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Greg:] <em>You&#8217;ve spent all this time and money, are you now going to go look in the mirror and go&#8230; </em></p>
<p>[Tory:]<em> </em>[interrupts and says sarcastically] <em>It isn&#8217;t working?!?!</em></p>
<p>[Greg:] <em> I mean you&#8217;re mentally trapped.  All your friends are Scientologists, your family are Scientologists, your kids are Scientologists&#8230; and if you go &#8220;this is bunk!&#8221; then they disconnect from you and you&#8217;re declared [to be a "suppressive person" by the chruch] and you&#8217;ve lost everything.  I didn&#8217;t think of it from that perspective but it&#8217;s like there was this thing going &#8220;this has gotta be true&#8230; this has gotta be true&#8230;&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll periodically receive emails from other former patients of my ex-gay therapist asking if I can put them in contact with other various former patients.  Even after attending conventions for ex-gay survivors I&#8217;m still blown away by how many <strong><em>former</em></strong> ex-gays there are.  It turns out Scientologists experience the same surprise after getting out:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Tory:]<em> When someone leaves the Church of Scientology they dispose of them &#8220;quietly and without sorrow,&#8221; and that&#8217;s actually in writing by [L. Ron] Hubbard, you&#8217;re just, you&#8217;re gone&#8230; </em></p>
<p>[snip]</p>
<p>[Tory:]<em> </em><em>And it is really weird, when I went to leave I literally only thought I was going to know three people when I left the church.  Well of course I came over on the other side and here&#8217;s thousands.  Most of my friends are here.  I was amazed, oh here&#8217;s all the people I&#8217;ve been looking for for years.  I didn&#8217;t know it but you never hear about it in the church.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Ex-gay survivors, myself included, who dare to speak publicly about the ineffectiveness of programs are often told by critics that we weren&#8217;t &#8220;doing the programs right&#8221; and that&#8217;s why we failed.  Big surprise, former Scientologists hear the same thing:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Greg:] <em>I&#8217;m surprised at how many people can stand by and watch Debra and I, go through what we went through, right and go &#8220;well you must have pulled it in.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>[Panel facilitator laughs]</p>
<p>[Greg:] <em>Right, yet I&#8217;m amazed at how many other people&#8230;</em></p>
<p>[Debra:] [interrupts] <em>No the other one they like to say is &#8220;you didn&#8217;t handle it right.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>[Whole panel laughs]</p>
<p>[Tory:] <em>Yeah, and like someone told me the other day &#8220;well you didn&#8217;t really get it.&#8221; </em>[Tory looks into the camera and raises eyebrow]<em> Thirty years?&#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>Writing this two part series has made me realize the mechanisms that keep people believing in promises made by Scientology and ex-gay programs are not unique to just those two types of programs.  Rather, the bullet-point list at the very top of this post list seems to be the universal recipe for how to fool human beings into devoting huge portions of their lives and fortunes to chasing false promises.</p>
<p>For simplicity I have limited my post to utilizing quotes from Jason Beghe and the OT 7 Panel videos &#8211; There are far more accounts by former Scientologists available on the net for those who seek them out.</p>
<p>Having read/watched many more stories I am struck by how much more life shattering the accounts of former Scientologists are compared to ex-gay survivors. In my opinion, Scientology consumes more peoples&#8217; time and money, destroyed more families and even claims more <a href="http://www.whyaretheydead.info/">human</a> <a href="http://www.scientology-kills.org/dead/dead.htm">lives</a> than ex-gay programs.  For those trapped living and working in the church&#8217;s most elite and cult-like division, <a href="http://www.exseaorg.com/">a hotline has even been setup for those who want help getting out</a>.</p>
<div id="attachment_15006" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 245px"><img class="size-full wp-image-15006" title="lisa" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lisa.gif" alt="Lisa Mc" width="235" height="247" /><p class="wp-caption-text">In 1995, Lisa McPherson died while under the care of the Flag Service Organization (FSO), a branch of the Church of Scientology.</p></div>
<p>Based on the previous paragraph mentioning destroyed families, deaths, and a cult rescue hotline, there are <em>many more</em> alarming things about Scientology than what I can cover in this post.  If your interest in Scientology has been piqued and you want to research more I&#8217;d suggest these sites:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xenutv.com/blog/">http://www.xenutv.com/blog/</a> My favorite Scientology &#8220;watch&#8221; site and source for current news is Xenu TV&#8217;s blog.  Xenu TV also has an extensive library of video interviews with former Scientologists.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xenu.net/">http://www.xenu.net/</a> (don&#8217;t confuse the URL with Xenu<em><strong>TV</strong></em>) The nearest thing to a Scientology encyclopedia is this site called Operation Clambake.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.exscientologykids.com/">http://www.exscientologykids.com/</a> Ex-Scientology Kids.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/">http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/</a> This is the home page for a huge multi-part series by St. Petersburg Times on abuse at Scientology&#8217;s HQ in nearby Clearwater FL.</p>
<p><em>Part I, &#8220;<em>Pseudo-psychology and selling hope for unrealistic change</em>&#8221; <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/09/28/13844" class="articleLink">can be found here</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>Let’s All Be &#8220;Anti&#8221; So No One Else Ever Has To Be &#8220;Ex&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lutes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note from Jim Burroway: I am very excited to be a co-sponsor of an exciting conference scheduled for November 20-22, 2009 in West Palm Beach, Florida. I will be there, as will BTB contributors Daniel Gonzales and Gabriel Arana. I hope you will too. Here&#8217;s Soulforce Executive Director Jeff Lutes to tell you all about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Note from Jim Burroway: I am very excited to be a co-sponsor of an exciting conference scheduled for November 20-22, 2009 in West Palm Beach, Florida. I will be there, as will BTB contributors Daniel Gonzales and Gabriel Arana. I hope you will too. Here&#8217;s Soulforce Executive Director Jeff Lutes to tell you all about it.</em></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-14144" title="Jeff Lutes" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jefflutes-150x100.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="100" />Two weeks ago a task force from the American Psychological Association released a ground breaking report after a two year analysis of the research on sexual orientation change efforts. Based on a rigorous review of 83 studies conducted between 1960 and 2007, the APA advised psychologists to avoid telling their clients that therapy or other treatments can change them from gay to straight.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, NARTH (National Association for Research &amp; Therapy of Homosexuality), Exodus International, and a slew of other religious groups immediately denounced the APA report. They claimed, as they so often do, that any research affirming the goodness and wholeness of queer people is bogus and only their twisted belief that we are sick, sinful, and second-class (and therefore in need of “change”) has any credibility.</p>
<p>In my view, the conversation about whether gays can change is a distraction from the much more important question; which is &#8220;Why do those in power encourage change in the first place?&#8221; The answer, of course, is the rampant heterosexism that infuses nearly every aspect of our culture.</p>
<p>Heterosexism is a system of attitudes, behaviors, and practices that subordinate queer people on the basis of their sexual orientation. In the same way that racism keeps whites in power over people of color and sexism keeps women subordinate to men, heterosexism keeps those who are straight dominant over those who are not. Heterosexism is the prejudice that only heterosexuality is normative, combined with the power to enforce that privilege across every spectrum of society. Heterosexism is advanced by nearly every tune on the radio, sitcom and commercial on television, print ad in the newspaper, film at the box office, and institutional policy within our government and work place. In innumerable ways each day, our society idealizes straightness and ignores or devalues the existence of any person or family who identifies otherwise.</p>
<p>When was the last time you heard a debate about whether therapy and prayer can change a straight person to gay?</p>
<p>I believe “change”, “repair”, and “conversion” are indeed possible. Millions of people have changed their minds and now believe that lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender citizens deserve full equality under the law. A growing number of churches have repaired their previously broken theology and now welcome and affirm everyone in their congregations. Slowly, the religious denominations that create and enforce church doctrine are undergoing a conversion in their understanding of LGBTQ people (let’s hope the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America undergoes such a conversion this week).</p>
<p>But the only way things change is if you and I are willing to be “anti” so that no one ever again has to be “ex.” Focusing on the work of anti-heterosexism (undoing the notion that straightness is superior and preferable) undermines the toxic belief system that encourages so many to waste thousands of dollars and precious years trying to become &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; in therapies and programs that end up doing more harm than good.</p>
<p>So, I’m proud of Soulforce, Beyond Ex-Gay, Box Turtle Bulletin, Truth Wins Out, Equality Florida, and the National Black Justice Coalition for coming together to sponsor the <strong>2009 Anti-Heterosexism Conference</strong> in West Palm Beach, Florida (November 20-22, 2009) during the same weekend and in the same city where NARTH will hold its annual conference.  Early registration begins today at <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/sendstudio/link.php?M=8085&amp;N=734&amp;L=2106&amp;F=H">www.anti-heterosexismconference.org</a> and the conference features powerful keynotes by <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/sendstudio/link.php?M=8085&amp;N=734&amp;L=2103&amp;F=H">Dr. Sylvia Rhue</a>, <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/sendstudio/link.php?M=8085&amp;N=734&amp;L=2104&amp;F=H">Dr. Jack Drescher</a>, and <a href="http://www.soulforce.org/sendstudio/link.php?M=8085&amp;N=734&amp;L=2105&amp;F=H">Rev. Deborah Johnson</a>, plus an exciting line-up of concurrent workshops that will be announced in September.</p>
<p>It’s our moral obligation to be “anti” and resist, oppose, and prevent the systems of power that oppress and discriminate. Join us this November in West Palm Beach as together we learn effective tools for undoing heterosexism in communities across the globe.</p>
<p>Warning: At this conference, you will most likely change . . . into your bathing suit!</p>
<p>Hope to see you there.</p>
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		<title>Ex-Gays And The Law: Truth Wins Out and Lambda Legal Offer Legal Advice</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Truth Wins Out and Lambda Legal have released a booklet, Ex-Gay &#38; The Law (PDF: 1.4MB/12pages), which provides an excellent overview by Wayne Besen of the ex-gay movement and its practitioners. The booklet aims to educate ex-gay survivors who believe they were harmed by their experiences about their legal options. From TWO&#8217;s press release:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/exgay_booklet1.pdf"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-9044" title="Ex-Gay &amp; The Law (PDF: 1.4MB/12pages)" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ex-gayandthelaw-150x195.png" alt="" width="150" height="195" /></a><a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org">Truth Wins Out</a> and <a href="http://www.lambdalegal.org/">Lambda Legal</a> have released a booklet, <a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/exgay_booklet1.pdf">Ex-Gay &amp; The Law</a> (PDF: 1.4MB/12pages), which provides an excellent overview by Wayne Besen of the ex-gay movement and its practitioners. The booklet aims to educate ex-gay survivors who believe they were harmed by their experiences about their legal options. From <a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressreleases/ex-gay-and-the-law/">TWO&#8217;s press release</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Ex-Gay &amp; the Law</em> helps survivors of ex-gay programs explore their legal rights if they believe they have been harmed,&#8221; said Wayne Besen, Executive Director of Truth Wins Out. &#8220;This groundbreaking publication offers practical legal advice so important questions can be answered.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We are pleased to help support this publication and to be a part of this effort,” said Hayley Gorenberg, Deputy Legal Director of Lambda Legal. “Groups that proclaim to ‘cure’ gay people of their sexual orientation lack any legitimate medical backing, cause harm, and sometimes operate unlawfully and unethically. If you have experienced any of the scenarios outlined in the last pages of <em>Ex-Gay &amp; the Law</em>, we welcome you to contact or Legal Help Desk.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked over the pamphlet. While it is definitely an advocacy piece, it certainly matches what I&#8217;ve witnessed first-hand from personally <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220" class="articleLink">attending Love Won Out conferences</a>, the week-long <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/29/497" class="articleLink">Exodus Freedom Conference</a> in Irvine, CA.,  the <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/24/822" class="articleLink">Family Impact Summit</a> in Florida (where Exodus International president Alan Chambers described gays as following an <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808" class="articleLink">&#8220;evil agenda&#8221;</a>), and by <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/09/1602" class="articleLink">talking with survivors</a> of the Love In Action live-in ministry.</p>
<p>In fact, if anything I think Wayne might have soft-pedaled some of what goes on at the Love In Action live-in ministry on page 6. The worst abuse I learned &#8212; and this was confirmed by three separate people who attended Love In Action &#8212; occurred at the so-called <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/22/1460" class="articleLink">&#8220;Friends and Family weekend.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>It goes like this: during the &#8220;client&#8217;s&#8221; stay at Love In Action, they are required to undergo an exhausted &#8220;personal inventory&#8221; in which they recount in explicit detail each and every sexual &#8220;sin&#8221; they have ever committed &#8212; whether it was detailed descriptions of sexual acts, or if they had been celibate then detailed descriptions of their sexual fantasies. Over the course of weeks and months, they revisit their personal inventory and add to it anything else that they may remember.</p>
<p>During the &#8220;Friends and Family Weekend,&#8221; friends and family members are invited to come to the Love In Action campus to visit with their &#8220;struggling&#8221; loved one. After a counseling session beforehand, they are ushered into a room and are seated on one side. The clients are then brought into the room and made to stand before their families and friends. They are then ordered to read aloud from their personal inventory &#8212; with complete details over their most humiliating sexual act or fantasy. This, they read aloud in front of their parents, friends, siblings &#8212; whoever happens to be there for the weekend.</p>
<p>Now I mentioned the counseling session beforehand. That is key. Visitors are advised ahead of time that they will likely hear something very disturbing from their loved one, and that a key component of this &#8220;therapy&#8221; is that they are not to offer any approval for their client. They can&#8217;t say, &#8220;we love you anyway&#8221;, they can&#8217;t say &#8220;we forgive you,&#8221; they can&#8217;t say anything positive. Instead, they are instructed to condemn their loved one, to tell them how disappointed they are, how disgusted they are, and so forth. The effects of this encounter have often been devastating to <a href="http://a_musing.blogspot.com/2008/08/shame-blame-game-in-ex-gay-programs.html">clients and family members alike</a>.</p>
<p>As I said, I have independent corroboration from three different former clients. Some have been able to repair their relationships with their parents.  But I do know that this isn&#8217;t always the case. The ruptured relationships between some and their family continues to this day. For too many fathers and mothers who heard their own son describe the intimate details of a sexual hook-up, they simply cannot look at him the same way again.</p>
<p>Lambda Legal advises:</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone who may have been harmed by any sort of counselor or therapist should contact Lambda Legal or a local lawyer as soon as possible. All states have a “statute of limitations” which limits the length of time for filing a lawsuit. These periods vary greatly, and may have exceptions if the patient is a minor. To best protect your legal rights, it is very important to consult an attorney sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>Whether or not someone can take legal action against an “ex-gay” counselor or facility will depend on factors including the law of the state where you met with the practitioner and the specific facts. There are many reasons “ex-gay” programs or practitioners may be liable for harm. If representatives of an “ex-gay” program make false claims, they may have committed fraud, breach of contract, or violated state laws against unfair business practices. If a practitioner does not adequately describe the potential harms of an “ex-gay” program, he or she may be liable for violating the duty to get consent from a person seeking care. If a practitioner is not qualified to provide therapy for a specific mental health condition and fails to refer to a qualified doctor or psychologist, he or she may be liable for negligence or violating rules governing professional licenses. If a counselor threatens to “out” you to your community if you decide you do not want to continue therapy, he or she may be liable under state law. If a practitioner tells third parties about details of your life or your same-sex attractions, that could violate your right to privacy. It is impossible to list all of the factors that might be important in evaluating whether or not someone harmed by an “exgay” program or practitioner may be able to sue in court or take other legal actions, so it is important to consult an attorney. Minors as well as adults have legal rights, including the right to consult with an attorney.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can call Lambda Legal toll free at 866-542-8336.</p>
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		<title>Christine Bakke: Dreams Of A Daughter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ex-gay survivor Christine Bakke recently discovered a post that her mother wrote for PFOX, an ex-gay organization. While Christine has left the ex-gay life behind, her mother, quite obviously, is still clinging to the hope that Christine will someday cast aside her integrity to live in the pretend world of the ex-gay movement.
Understandably, Christine&#8217;s relationship [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-8851" title="Christine Bakke" src="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/christinebakke-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" />Ex-gay survivor Christine Bakke recently discovered a post that her <a href="http://pfox.org/mom_speaks_out.html">mother wrote for PFOX</a>, an ex-gay organization. While Christine has left the ex-gay life behind, her mother, quite obviously, is still clinging to the hope that Christine will someday cast aside her integrity to live in the pretend world of the ex-gay movement.</p>
<p>Understandably, Christine&#8217;s relationship with her mother is strained, although she points out that her living as a lesbian isn&#8217;t the only issue. While Christine <a href="http://rising-up.blogspot.com/2009/02/dreams-of-daughter.html">doesn&#8217;t want to play out</a> the details of their estrangement over public blogs and web sites, she nevertheless recognizes that &#8220;my parents didn&#8217;t have a choice in me <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/10/282" class="articleLink">going public with my story</a>. So they&#8217;re well within their right to write about me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered how I would respond if my own mother had spoken out publicly against me. I hope that I, too, would recognize that she has the right to do so. But it&#8217;s hard to imagine what sort of interpretations I&#8217;d put on her motivations. Rejection? Certainly. And fear, probably. But I do think I&#8217;d see a misguided love underneath all that. I don&#8217;t know whether it would make it easier to understand (she does love me, after all, no matter how misguided) or harder (sensing a love with conditions will never be easy to deal with). But mostly, I think my reaction would be anger &#8212; at those who are encouraging her on the path of estrangement, people who have neither her nor my best interests at heart</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know what my reaction would be. Fortunately, I haven&#8217;t had to deal with that situation. Perhaps that&#8217;s because I didn&#8217;t try to go through the organized ex-gay route. There wasn&#8217;t anyone there to hold out false hope to my mother that I could change.</p>
<p>Every family is different. And in Christine&#8217;s case, while she has left the ex-gay movement and has become an outspoken critic of it, her mother is still fully ensconced in one of the <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/tag/pfox" class="articleLink">more rejecting and confrontational expressions</a> of that anti-gay movement. She is still being encouraged to look for magic signs and snow angel wonders to show that someday Christine will forget all she knows and go back to a life of denial and misery.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known Christine for more than two years now, and I have always found her gentle heart to be filled with thoughtful consideration for other people. So I couldn&#8217;t help but be moved by how <a href="http://rising-up.blogspot.com/2009/02/dreams-of-daughter.html">she responded to her mother&#8217;s post</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Although saying that they love me unconditionally, in the <a href="http://www.glamour.com/sex-love-life/2007/04/gay-therapy">Glamour</a> article my mom said, &#8220;When you rock your baby in your arms, you never think one day my daughter will be homosexual and want to have sex with another woman, never have children. No one holds their baby and says maybe they’ll grow up to be a rapist, or this or that. You have dreams for your children.”</p>
<p>Well you know what? Children have dreams for their parents, too. You don&#8217;t lay in your parent&#8217;s arms and think that you&#8217;ll have to defend yourself from them thinking you are lost and damned eternally. You don&#8217;t cuddle up and think that one day you&#8217;ll find out that they believe that who you are is synonymous with being a rapist. I certainly didn&#8217;t have those dreams for my parents. What I did dream instead was that I might be able to express my concerns and be heard. I dreamed that I would be always cherished and deemed worthy of their love and respect, no matter my beliefs. I dreamed that I would be supported in living a life that was truly authentic and truly mine, without the haunting thoughts about what a disappointment I am to them. Those dreams have had to die.</p></blockquote>
<p>Christine is willing to meet her parents where they are. &#8220;I&#8217;ve often told people that I don&#8217;t mind if they think I&#8217;m going to hell, just treat me with respect, love and dignity and we can have a relationship regardless,&#8221; she wrote. Obviously, that&#8217;s not enough. For many ex-gay survivors, the only route to reconciliation is total capitulation. If only her parents &#8212; and the ironically dubbed &#8220;pro-family&#8221; anti-gay forces which are sustaining a key component of this estrangement &#8212; could meet her where she is. If they did, they would find an amazing daughter that any parent would be proud of.</p>
<p>Why must that be so hard?</p>
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		<title>If You&#8217;re Attending The Creating Change Conference This Weekend</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Gonzales</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force &#8220;Creating Change&#8221; conference is being held in Denver this weekend.  Fellow ex-gay survivor Christine Bakke and I will be giving a 90 minute seminar on the ex-gay survivor movement this Saturday at 3pm.  Most seminars are on Friday or Saturday and discounted registration for a single [...]]]></description>
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