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		<title>Comment on Orthodox Priests Lead Violent Attack On LGBT Rights Rally in Tbilisi, Georgia by Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 14:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Hucksters</description>
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		<title>Comment on Orthodox Priests Lead Violent Attack On LGBT Rights Rally in Tbilisi, Georgia by StraightGrandmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>StraightGrandmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 21:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cruelty For Christ</description>
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		<title>Comment on Orthodox Priests Lead Violent Attack On LGBT Rights Rally in Tbilisi, Georgia by Jerry Sloan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 20:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THUGS FOR JESUS</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Daily Agenda for Saturday, May 18 by TomTallis</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/05/18/55978/comment-page-1#comment-275345</link>
		<dc:creator>TomTallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 19:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little known fact:  At the end of Jerry Brown&#039;s first terms as governorn, his official portrait was painted by Don Bachardy.  Today it hangs in a stairwell of the California State Capitol building, while much inferior gubernatorial portraits hang in more prominent positions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gubernatorial_portrait_of_Jerry_Brown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little known fact:  At the end of Jerry Brown&#8217;s first terms as governorn, his official portrait was painted by Don Bachardy.  Today it hangs in a stairwell of the California State Capitol building, while much inferior gubernatorial portraits hang in more prominent positions.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gubernatorial_portrait_of_Jerry_Brown" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gubernatorial_portrait_of_Jerry_Brown</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on French President Hollande Signs Marriage Bill by jutta</title>
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		<dc:creator>jutta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 18:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; When Justice Minister Christiane Taubira said the first same-sex marriages could take place as early as June, she was not expecting the Constitutional Council to act as quickly as they did.

She probably preferred to err on the save side. It will be early June in most places, end of May in places with exceptionally ambitious mayors. 10 days is the minimum delay between publishing of the banns and marriage, usually it takes longer to get a date for a wedding (in a French paper I read it takes 4 weeks in most townhalls.)

Monday is a holiday in France, so couples will be able to start filing the paperwork on May 21 - plus 10 days makes May 31. 

One mayor in Paris (3rd arondissement) promised to have the registry office open Saturday afternoon (today) and the mayor of Montpellier already scheduled the first same-sex wedding for May 29.
http://www.europe1.fr/France/Mariage-gay-ces-maires-font-la-course-1497471/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; When Justice Minister Christiane Taubira said the first same-sex marriages could take place as early as June, she was not expecting the Constitutional Council to act as quickly as they did.</p>
<p>She probably preferred to err on the save side. It will be early June in most places, end of May in places with exceptionally ambitious mayors. 10 days is the minimum delay between publishing of the banns and marriage, usually it takes longer to get a date for a wedding (in a French paper I read it takes 4 weeks in most townhalls.)</p>
<p>Monday is a holiday in France, so couples will be able to start filing the paperwork on May 21 &#8211; plus 10 days makes May 31. </p>
<p>One mayor in Paris (3rd arondissement) promised to have the registry office open Saturday afternoon (today) and the mayor of Montpellier already scheduled the first same-sex wedding for May 29.<br />
<a href="http://www.europe1.fr/France/Mariage-gay-ces-maires-font-la-course-1497471/" rel="nofollow">http://www.europe1.fr/France/Mariage-gay-ces-maires-font-la-course-1497471/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Orthodox Priests Lead Violent Attack On LGBT Rights Rally in Tbilisi, Georgia by Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Hypocrisy knows no borders! So go beat up a bunch of gays because you think that that is what some imaginary guy in the sky would want you to do??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Hypocrisy knows no borders! So go beat up a bunch of gays because you think that that is what some imaginary guy in the sky would want you to do??</p>
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		<title>Comment on French President Hollande Signs Marriage Bill by Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 16:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder when the florists, the cake makers,photographers, travel agents who refuse to provide wedding services to gay couples and then pretend it&#039;s THEIR rights that are being violated for doing so?
   I&#039;ve always wondered how it&#039;s a business owner&#039;s  rights to abuse a paying customer for something that customer didn&#039;t know about in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder when the florists, the cake makers,photographers, travel agents who refuse to provide wedding services to gay couples and then pretend it&#8217;s THEIR rights that are being violated for doing so?<br />
   I&#8217;ve always wondered how it&#8217;s a business owner&#8217;s  rights to abuse a paying customer for something that customer didn&#8217;t know about in the first place?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Daily Agenda for Saturday, May 18 by John Colgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Colgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 16:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Dennis was not born on this day!  Patrick Dennis was never born, that name is a pseudonym used by  Edward Everett Tanner III  - the man, who wrote the Auntie Mame books (and fantastic pseudo-autobiography Little Me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Dennis was not born on this day!  Patrick Dennis was never born, that name is a pseudonym used by  Edward Everett Tanner III  &#8211; the man, who wrote the Auntie Mame books (and fantastic pseudo-autobiography Little Me).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Daily Agenda for Saturday, May 18 by Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no end to the irony of bigots and bigoted policies.
Papa Choux&#039;s romantic booths offers a sheer curtain and modicum of privacy. Well, at least the gay couples wouldn&#039;t have exposed other diners to their romantic behavior.
  Anymore than other couples would have been to the gay customers.
So what&#039;s the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no end to the irony of bigots and bigoted policies.<br />
Papa Choux&#8217;s romantic booths offers a sheer curtain and modicum of privacy. Well, at least the gay couples wouldn&#8217;t have exposed other diners to their romantic behavior.<br />
  Anymore than other couples would have been to the gay customers.<br />
So what&#8217;s the problem?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Daily Agenda for Saturday, May 18 by Ben In Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben In Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is the money quote:

&quot;Socarides cautioned that “ any change in the legal code should be accompanied by a clearcut statement as to the nature of obligatory homosexuality, its diagnosis as a form of mental illness, and a universal declaration of support for its treatment by qualified medical practitioners.” 

It&#039;s no different than we hear from so-called religious leaders, who assert their dominion over the lives of others because of the spiritual masturbation-- and i don&#039;t mean to knock a perfectly delightful past-time with the spirtual label-- wherein all they hear is the endless chatter going on inside their heads, and mistake it for the voice of god.

In this case, its merely the assertion of medical dominion over the lives of other people, without having to justify that any such medical dominion is required, or is based in anything other than ignorance, prejudice, and a bad tendency towards believing in ones own human superiority-- intelelctual masturbation elevated to an art form.

what&#039;s VERY funny to me is his distinction between obligatory homosexuality and episodic homosexuality, which gives away his whole game, and reveals the assumption of moral and human superiority and the concomitant requirement for spiritual, I mean &quot;medical&quot; dominion. Apparently, whenb WE do homosexuality, it&#039;s sick, disgusting, and indicative of mental illness. 

When heterosexuals behave homosexually, it&#039;s normal.As we say in germany, Tee und Hee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is the money quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Socarides cautioned that “ any change in the legal code should be accompanied by a clearcut statement as to the nature of obligatory homosexuality, its diagnosis as a form of mental illness, and a universal declaration of support for its treatment by qualified medical practitioners.” </p>
<p>It&#8217;s no different than we hear from so-called religious leaders, who assert their dominion over the lives of others because of the spiritual masturbation&#8211; and i don&#8217;t mean to knock a perfectly delightful past-time with the spirtual label&#8211; wherein all they hear is the endless chatter going on inside their heads, and mistake it for the voice of god.</p>
<p>In this case, its merely the assertion of medical dominion over the lives of other people, without having to justify that any such medical dominion is required, or is based in anything other than ignorance, prejudice, and a bad tendency towards believing in ones own human superiority&#8211; intelelctual masturbation elevated to an art form.</p>
<p>what&#8217;s VERY funny to me is his distinction between obligatory homosexuality and episodic homosexuality, which gives away his whole game, and reveals the assumption of moral and human superiority and the concomitant requirement for spiritual, I mean &#8220;medical&#8221; dominion. Apparently, whenb WE do homosexuality, it&#8217;s sick, disgusting, and indicative of mental illness. </p>
<p>When heterosexuals behave homosexually, it&#8217;s normal.As we say in germany, Tee und Hee.</p>
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