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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyOctober 7th, 2009
Okay, technically the ad is by Protect Marriage Washington, but the imagery is heavily Mormonism — copyrighted Mormonism at that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LItKZ8jj4YThe second image you see flashing on the screen, of Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden, is a copyrighted image from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. You can find a copy of that image on their web site as part of their Gospel Art Picture Kit. Another one found on a web page titled, “What Do Mormons Believe About Adam and Eve.” It’s interesting reading, since it hints at a fallible God — or at least a God that gives conflicting instructions and it’s up to us to decide which set of instructions to follow.
But the best part of this ad is that it confirms everything we’ve ever warned about. It really is their ultimate goal to impose, by coercion, their religious beliefs on everyone else.
I hope they show this ad on every television in Washington. Maybe dreams really do come true!
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Derrick Davis
October 7th, 2009
I am glad that you called this out for what it is. I automatically recognized the artwork from this video as that of the LDS Church. They must be held accountable for their propaganda and lies.
Patrick
October 7th, 2009
I love that Eve was blond. Pretty typical of people from the Near East, right?
I found the vocalizations in this interesting – the way “God” and “man” was stressed.
If nothing else, this cuts to the chase. The argument against allowing gays to have rights is religious in nature, and nothing but religious.
John
October 7th, 2009
I really wish that the Mormons would be publically called out on their attempts to impose their views on the rest of us. I have thought for a long time that the anti-marriage equality efforts of the Mormon Church are more designed to increase their political power and clout, not just an expression of their religious views. The money they were able to generate in California and now in Maine is a message that they are a serious player on the right.
Do most Americans want to see an increase in Mormon power in this country? What ultimately are the political goals of the Mormon Church?
I wish another ad could be made out of this ad pointing out the Mormon angle of the ad and asking the larger question of just what the Mormon Church wants from the the money they are now pouring into the American political system.
Eddie89
October 7th, 2009
Another reason this ad is a TOTAL lie is that Ref. 71 is about DOMESTIC PARTNERNSIP, NOT “marriage”!
“They Lie!”
Eddie89
October 7th, 2009
Oops!
I meant to write “partnership”!
Sorry! :-)
Leonard Drake
October 7th, 2009
Patrick, in addition to your points about “God” and “man,” I just loved the picture of Jesus Christ when the 3rd (or so) reference to “God” is mentioned. What a narrow mindset. I am sure that really pleased those people of Jewish, Muslim and other faiths. (not)
Edwin
October 7th, 2009
So when is this religion going to lose it’e tax exemption status. all this money just to try to screw up other peoples lives.
Why don’t they just stay in utah and leave real people alone? We only want the same rights that everybody else takes for granted.
Cole
October 7th, 2009
Remember the heterosexual-only marriage/ domestic partnership supporters barely collected enough signatures to get this referendum on the ballot (and election officials accepted tens of thousands of illegal signatures) yet here we are with virtually a tie. I would bet that almost all of the “undecided” are in the reject the new domestic partnership column. What have gay people in Washington done? There was only one gay person who went out and filmed the deceptive tactics used to get people to sign the petition which if you remember had 30+ pages shrunk down to four (you can bet than NONE of those people that signed the petition even read it). Only a few more days before voters get their ballots and gay people have done barely anything? Go talk to Washington voters, phonebank (you can do that from home anywhere), twitter, post videos online, write to Washington newspapers etc.
APPROVE Referendum 71
http://tinyurl.com/poc4h5
David C.
October 7th, 2009
But you see, this is what the LDS types absolutely do not want: something that in any way could substitute for marriage, irrespective of whether you are gay or straight, but in particular if you happen to be gay.
By now everybody has figured out that all the nonsense about the use of the word marriage is just a ruse. These people do not want you to have the protections afforded by the body of law associated with marriage if you are gay, no matter what the institution or contract is called.
Johnson
October 8th, 2009
Who knew Eve had a Farrah Fawcett ‘do and Adam sported a blow-dried late 70’s haircut? And why no mention of the gay hairdressers in the Garden who created them???
Benjamin
October 8th, 2009
I am opposed to what the LDS Church is doing in fighting the right of gay people (including myself) to get married to the person we love. What they have done and are doing is wrong and they will sorely regret it if they don’t change their approach toward us and our rights as LGBT people.
In all fairness to the teachings that the LDS Church teaches about Adam and Eve this “fallible God hint” or “at least a God who gives conflicting instructions” is based in a great deal of ignorance about LDS doctrine. The LDS concept of the choices given in the garden are pretty progressive in that they do not blame Eve for making a “bad” or “sinful” choice. In fact they teach “she did what had to be done. Adam was wise enough to do likewise.” Apostle Russel M. Nelson. They teach that there were two choices Adam and Eve were given. They could either remain in the garden and be as little children forever (being immature and innocent not knowing good and evil);or they could partake of the fruit, experience a separation from God and experience an opposition in all things. That is to go out of the garden into a fallen world to learn, to grow and to be strengthened by the experience, the riggers, the pain and the joy and difficulties of a fallen world. In other words they would have to work hard. They would become independent adults who could choose, make mistakes and learn from them. That’s a universe away from the traditional Catholic and Protestant teachings that tend to view Eve as evil and Adam as pretty dumb to follow that woman into “sin”.
Some Jewish leaders have a very similar belief about the garden of Eden and the choices placed before Eve and Adam. Rabbi Harold S. Kushner’s best selling book How Good Do We Have To Be? A New Understanding of Guilt and Forgiveness is an excellent example of this and supports the Mormon teaching that Adam and Eve’s fall was actually a good and necessary thing.
Where the Mormon Church has failed it’s LGBT members is through instilling guilt, shame and fear about the great God given gift of our sexual orientation. They have failed society in the way they have sought to impose that fear, guilt and shame on the greater society regarding all LGBT people. This is a travesty and a terrible thing that needs to be corrected as they have truly gotten way off track in this area and they are extremely stubborn about it without any consideration to the painful and terrible effect their imposition is having on others. We need to arm and equip ourselves with facts and understanding our opposition is a crucial part of this.
Benjamin
October 8th, 2009
Another point about the Mormon church is that this “one man and one woman” issue is sadly ignoring the Church’s distant past wherein 6 of its original prophets and many other early leaders practiced “plural marriage” or “polygamy” wherein one man had many wives. Brigham Young also speculated that Adam brought Eve “one of his wives” with him into the Garden of Eden. The LDS Church is afraid of this change yet they don’t admit the fact that the Church has a decent presence in other countries who have full same sex marriage equality. Canada is one of those countries and yet their temples and their churches are doing just fine. Also Boston, Massachusetts has a large Mormon Temple and that temple and the members of the various congregations throughout Massachusetts are fairing very well in a state that has legalized same sex marriage for years now. The more states that pass same sex marriage into law the more their arguments will be irrelevant to most Americans.
Jessica Sideways
October 8th, 2009
I think that the morons should have their tax exempt status revoked solely for their continued direct disrespect of the rules surrounding that status. Not just the fact that they are being homophobic pricks…
Jason Drew
November 21st, 2011
Jason Drew…
Major thanks for the article post. Keep writing….
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