March 6th, 2011
According to this clunky Google translation of a Moldovan news report:
Public Association “Pentru Familie” / “For the family / states that adopted recently by the Government bill threatens the institution of family and social morality as homosexuality is pick up swing in the Republic of Moldova. Visiting Association, an international expert in the field of human rights Lively Scott, warned of “an outbreak of homosexuality” in Moldova, in case the parliament adopts the bill, reports Info-Prim Neo.
This is a bill to prevent and combat discrimination, government-approved on February 17. Chairman of the association “Pentru Familie” Vasile Filat said at a news conference on Monday that if this law is passed in parliament, this would entail the legalization of same-sex marriages, adoption of children couples gay acceptance of homosexual practice as the norm in schools.
…Foreign visitor Lively Scott stressed that this law has caused dire consequences in other countries where it was passed. “I guarantee you, if this bill passes, all the evil that struck the European Union, the collapse and to the Republic of Moldova”, – said the expert in the field of human rights.
Holocaust revisionist Scott Lively is up to his old tricks again, even though it was not even two months ago that he said he was through with anti-gay activism. Shocking, I know.
I’m having a hard time finding any more info on what Lively’s doing or saying in Modova, but here’s something I found interesting coming from what looks like an email to supporters from Lively posted to a Canadian web site:
However, in God’s divine schedule I arrived just after the first move of a secret plan by the homosexual powers of the EU to push an anti-discrimination law based on sexual orientation through the Moldovan government.
I wish I had known at the beginning of my ministry in the early 1990s what I know now. We might have stopped the homosexual agenda in America. What I know now, and have taught the Moldovans, is that the anti-discrimination law is the seed that contains the entire tree of the homosexual agenda, with all of its poisonous fruit. It is the cornerstone of their legal and political strategy, putting the power of the governernment [sic] behind the legal premise that the practice of homosexuality deserves public approval and that opposition to homosexuality, including that which is rooted in the Biblical world view, must be discouraged. From that premise the conclusion is logically inevitable.
The Moldovan version of the bill however went much farther than usual and included a far reaching provision to give homosexual activists power in the national school system, teacher training and the preparation of instructional materials. They normally don’t include such power-grabbing measures at the beginning, which indicates to me that they had extreme confidence that this law would pass with very little scrutiny or opposition.
Lively is adding a new twist to his vast worldwide homosexual conspiracy. Again, from the Moldovan web site:
Lobbying for the legalization of homosexuality is made from outside the Republic of Moldova, by agents of millionaire George Soros, who is interested in the fact that homosexuals have become a force, said Lively, Scott.
I wish I had just a tenth of the the imagination it takes to to make this up.
The unfortunate thing however is that Moldova has a serious problem with severe anti-gay violence. In 2008, a gay pride march was in the Moldovan capital of Chisina was attacked and broken up by a mob of skinheads and Moldovan nationalists. Violence and calls to violence has a habit of following Lively around, which is just one of many reasons for his “ministry” being among the very few in the U.S. who is listed as an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. In 2009, he unleashed what he called a “Nuclear Bomb” in Kampala, Uganda. That sparked yet another round of anti-gay vigilantism and violence, culminating in the introduction of the draconian Anti-Homosexuality Bill in that nation’s Parliament.
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SteveInMI
March 6th, 2011
“poisonous fruit”?
I may be a fruit, but I’m not poisonous.
So as anti-gay activists continue losing ground in developed countries, they move on to less delevoped nations. They target populations who don’t realize how toxic the message is, and whose leaders will stand with them for a few well placed dollars. Sounds like the theocrats have been taking a page from the US tobacco industry.
Kathy Baldock
March 6th, 2011
How so very interesting–Paul Cameron AND Scott Lively BOTH go to Moldova. The hatred will continue with this tag-team from HELL.
eric marcoux
March 7th, 2011
Will you guys please contact me re our previous discussion about Scott Lively.
There is something I don’t want to make public that I know about him. Yes,we discussed it before, but I have a bit more and would appreciate your advice. Thanks
Eric Marcoux
David
March 7th, 2011
Jim, please follow up on Eric’s post. I want to know what he knows.
It seems to me that something changed in Lively about 2 years ago. He was always extreme, but in the past he made an effort to cloak his extremism in faux scholarship and to leaven it with standard Christian rhetoric. But about 2 years ago, he went totally nutters.
First, there was his Feb. 2009 post about the possible repeal of DADT, in which he predicted that homosexual cabals would form and ultimately commandeer the US armed forces, after which, Lively hinted, this gay-controlled military force could turn its weapons on the US govt. or the world.
Then there was his completely made-up charge that gays conducted the Hutu genocide of Tutsi in Rwanda, something no Hutu or Tutsi leader has ever claimed.
Then came his move to MA and his write-in campaign for governor.
Then came his bizarre, repeated public declarations that he was leaving the culture war in order to focus on the poor and drug-addicted residents of Springfield, MA, followed within days by more anti-gay attacks.
Then came a public letter to the Ugandan parliament providing drafting advice on the anti-gay legislation – thus making Lively an active participant in what may turn out to be a state act of genocide. And he does this at the very time when he is trying to publicly minimize his role.
Then, came his deranged “Murdering Uganda” piece of a few weeks ago. And now this screed. “Homosexual powers of the EU”? WTF?
BlackDog
March 7th, 2011
My gods, there are enough legitimate, real problems in the world today that any supposed “Christian” could be out trying to fix.
So why the hell do they have to make shit up?
While we’re at it, what’s his opinion of the not-so-secret groups of Christian Fundamentalists striving to suppress the rights of others?
Methinks there’s a lot of projection going on here.
jutta
March 7th, 2011
I have found some more ressources about Scott Lively’s visit to Moldavia
Here’s an interview with him on a Christian (or “christian”?) website.
http://www.moldovacrestina.net/interviu/scott-lively-homosexualii-vor-descrimina-majoritatea-cetatenilor-daca-legea-nedescriminarii-va-intra-in-vigoare-dscriminare-gay/
The main author of this website is Rev. Vasile Filat, also director of ‘Pentru Familie’.
The site also encourages its readers to protest against the planned anti-discrimination law:
http://www.moldovacrestina.net/evenimente/post-negru-respingere-lege-anti-discriminare/
http://www.moldovacrestina.net/evenimente/miting-alianta-salvarea-familiei-10-martie-2011/
And they have a facebook page, too:
http://www.facebook.com/SalvareaFamiliilor
Under http://marianvitalie.eu/?p=1184 a blogger who is also affiliated with Pentru Familie published an appeal by a “Coalition against discrimination” addressed to the minister of education, to see that Scott Lively is not allowed to speak in public schools. (Of course this “proves” that gays want to silence Christians.)
On another page of the same blog I found a “black list” of persons “encouraging homosexuality” or something like that http://marianvitalie.eu/?page_id=999
And now I have included so many links that your spamfilter will not let me post it ;-)
Jim Burroway
March 7th, 2011
Jutta,
Indeed, for some reason your post went directly to spam and didn’t even go to the moderation queue. I’ve retrieved it and posted it here. Thank you for the tips.
justsearching
March 7th, 2011
“I wish I had known at the beginning of my ministry in the early 1990s what I know now. We might have stopped the homosexual agenda in America.”
To speak in Lively’s typical violence-laced lingo, he might have been able to slow down the train, but it would have run him over eventually.
Kelly
March 7th, 2011
Oh noes!!!!11 An outbreak of teh gays! Where do I get my vaccination?
Reed Boyer
March 7th, 2011
Given his record in Uganda, I’m beginning to suspect that Lively and Cameron intentionally target countries with ” a serious problem with severe anti-gay violence” and then choose to fan the flames.
I’m surprised (not really much) that he’s jumped onto the “demonize George Soros” band-wagon.
But the real clanger here is the phrase “an international expert in the field of human rights Lively Scott,” which seems to have lost or added something in translation.
Then again, racist bigot Jesse Helms has managed to be re-painted post-humously as a “human rights pioneer.”
Richard Rush
March 7th, 2011
RE: Eric’s comment
Okay, now I’m really curious. I’ve always viewed Lively as the creepiest of the creepy gay-bashing creeps. Many of the other creeps, such as Matt Barber, are also partially buffoons, but Lively is 100% creep. There is just something about him whereby I will only be surprised if he is NOT ultimately exposed for hiding some awful secrets in his bunker – things much more revelatory than if he is merely exposed as a homosexual himself.
Darina
March 7th, 2011
Jim, the first link doesn’t lead exactly to the translation of the article.
If I find anything in a language that I understand, I’ll let you all know.
Post-communist Eastern Europe is a whole new market for American-based or American-style homophobia because the struggle for LGBT rights is still at its early stages here (the only marked exception I know of is Slovenia), and the general population is very ignorant about homosexuality. I’m in Bulgaria myself, and we already have this kind of thing going on here. This is one of the Bulgarian anti-gay activists (an actual university-graduated clinical psychologist, mind you). I don’t expect anybody here to be able to read the article in Bulgarian on his site, but just look at his references in English:
http://sites.google.com/site/petervilkov/mitove-za-homoseksualizma
Wow, you can try Google-translating the article – the result is surprisingly good, maybe because Google more or less translates the text back to its source.
Ben in Oakland
March 7th, 2011
Richard– i agree. but i suspect it’s not anything aobut being gay. i certianly hope not, beucase the man seems to be sick.
Think Grant Storms.
More and more, I am certain that the truly, viciously antigay are hiding all kinds of things while they are screaming “Look at that! not Here! there!”.
TomTallis
March 7th, 2011
Wasn’t it Lively that was caught harboring a convicted child molester in his Springfield “ministry” to teenagers?
Lynn David
March 7th, 2011
What they are worried about….
Right from the Lively’s mouth.
anteros
March 7th, 2011
it’s abundantly clear that this dude played a huge role in stirring up the ugandan mess. i still can’t understand why anybody would give such a hateful nutjob any audience. let’s hope they don’t buy into his wild conspiracy theories. as for breaking his promise so soon, clearly he can’t help himself… is there no way he can be stopped?
beachewtoy75
March 7th, 2011
They’re planting seeds in homophobic countries in hopes that they’ll turn into super-homophobes.
Stephen
March 7th, 2011
Isn’t Moldavia trying to gain full partnership in the EU? If so then this kind of tripe will not fly.
I think I remember that Scott Lively was not allowed entry to the UK because of his hate rhetoric.
Jerry
March 7th, 2011
Pathetic people like Lively and Cameron know that gays are not a threat to anyone. Being accepted is the threat to them and their ilk. Once gays walk the streets in sunshine and no one notices, these clods have no income anymore.
dad_of_a_trans
March 7th, 2011
Aw nuts, I’m getting so sick of lunatics like these. It’s gotten so they’re not even good for amusement any more.
Bern in RI
March 7th, 2011
Scott is always at hoot! A complete a**hole! The gift that keeps on giving.
I wonder who gave him the $$$ to go to Moldova?
CB
March 7th, 2011
Have a look….Lively’s name fits perfectly.
http://picsmafia.com/images/86Scott1.jpg
cd
March 7th, 2011
Moldova is quietly trying to find a back door into the EU by inofficially fusing (back) into Romania. But achieving the full reality will probably take 10 years to actualize or more. It’ll probably only happen as part of a grand EU-Russian bargain solving a set of interlinked post-Soviet problems in the region.
That being said, box cars filled with toaster ovens have been dispatched to Moldova…. ;) :D
jutta
March 8th, 2011
Thank you for this link, Darina!
>>
http://sites.google.com/site/petervilkov/mitove-za-homoseksualizma
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Следната ÑтатиÑтика беше публикувана в Lambda:
– 24 % от гейовете Ñа имали повече от 100 партньори;
– 43 % от гейовете Ñа имали повече от 500 партньори;
– 28% от гейовете Ñа имали повече от 1000 партньори.
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If more than 28 % of all gay men have had more than 1000 sex partners and 43 % more than 500, then there must be *at least* 71 % who had more than 100 ;-)
Vincent
March 9th, 2011
Stephen,
From what I understand (and I am reading the Russian-language news from Moldova from time to time), Moldova is expected to pass an anti-discrimination bill in exchange for increasingly lower trade and entry requirements for its citizens.
The actual enforceability of the law is a separate story; no one’s expecting that the next day it will suddenly be a gay-friendly paradise. Well, no one aside from Lively and his Christian friends.
It seems that at least next door, in Ukraine, its the Fundamentalist Christians (aka Pentecostals and Baptists) who are taking the lead on anti-gay activism.
Vincent
March 9th, 2011
Dear Jim,
Thank you for publishing it and adding this other info about SL – he’s such a despicable being.
yesthisyesthat
August 15th, 2013
Say what you want Scott Lively, but he is not a Holocaust revisionist. Holocaust refers to deliberate and planned persecution of the Jews. He does not contradict Holocaust happened.
Jim Burroway
August 15th, 2013
What you are describing is a Holocaust denier. Lively has “revised” the history of the Holocaust to claim, falsely, that it was a homosexual plot. The two are very different. You are correct that he’s not a Holocaust denier — he says that the Holocaust happened and killed millions of Jews as deliberate policy. He is however a Holocaust revisionist, revising his version of history to place the blame on gay people.
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