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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyJune 11th, 2008
The plot thickens. Some people report that TiVo’s web site promoting FOTF’s affiliation returns a “page not found” error, while others say it loads fine for them. It’s a mystery. Here are some questions we’d like you to answer in the comments:
1. Does TiVo’s page load for you?
2. Is this the first time you tried accessing the web page at TiVo?
3. Did you clear your browsers’ cache and/or deleted cookies? Do you get a different result if you do?
4. Please specify which browser, operating system, and internet provider is giving you your results.
And here’s something else to try. When I click on this link, I get redirected to this page, which gives me the “page not found” error. Someone else wrote that the first page loaded up fine for them, but they noticed the two different URL’s. So they went to the second link manually and got the same “page not found error.” But after visiting that second link once, now the first link won’t load for them. Any ideas?
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Steve Boese
June 11th, 2008
In Firefox on WinXP Pro, accessing all of the links for the first time ever, I got Page not found.
Erica B.
June 11th, 2008
1) No
2) Yes
3) No
4) Firefox / WinXP / work
What I think happened is this: if you already had the page in the cache [or, if your upstream provider had it cached], you will still see the original page. However, if you visited for the first time AFTER they changed the code, you’ll see the current version, which is a redirect to kzoffer.html (the new, “sorry nothing found” page).
My theory weaker if anybody visiting for the first time sees it, though :)
Timothy Kincaid
June 11th, 2008
I was redirected – hadn’t been there before
NG
June 11th, 2008
I’m getting a PAGE NOT FOUND.
Norm!
June 11th, 2008
1. Does TiVo’s page load for you?
No
2. Is this the first time you tried accessing the web page at TiVo?
Yes
3. Did you clear your browsers’ cache and/or deleted cookies? Do you get a different result if you do?
Yes, no.
4. Please specify which browser, operating system, and internet provider is giving you your results.
IE 7.0, WindowsVista, Comcast
AlexM
June 11th, 2008
I didn’t think of the cookies, but when I cleared the one cookie from the TiVo site, it still redirected me again.
Oh, and I’ll try not to comment on one article more than 3 times. :)
Willie Hewes
June 11th, 2008
Page not found for both. First time visiting, IE on my work machine.
Devlin Bach
June 11th, 2008
1st time accessing Tivo. Page not found. Browser not cleared Vista / IE / AOL
Stefano
June 11th, 2008
1. Does TiVo’s page load for you?
No. Neither the original link or the redirected link load. Even if entered manually into the browser address field so that no referrer would be detected.
2. Is this the first time you tried accessing the web page at TiVo?
No
3. Did you clear your browsers’ cache and/or deleted cookies?
Yes. By default my browser doesn’t cache pages. However, even if I completely shut down and run a wash and bleach of all temporary, caches, and cookies, and then attempt to load either link, I still get a 404 error.
Do you get a different result if you do?
No
4. Please specify which browser, operating system, and internet provider is giving you your results.
Windows OS
IE 6x
Independent local ISP
Have you (or Jeremy at Good As You attempted to contact TiVo’s medica contact or web master?
Scott
June 11th, 2008
I get “page not found” on all the Tivo links you posted. This is the first time i’ve ever visited Tivo’s website. I’m using Windows XP, Firefox, and Qwest.
ScottJ
June 11th, 2008
I cannot find the page either…however, the Tivo promotion is still on the FOTF website.
Emily K
June 11th, 2008
Page not found. Firefox on Mac OS X. first time visiting.
Gabriel Hudson
June 11th, 2008
1. Does TiVo’s page load for you?
No
2. Is this the first time you tried accessing the web page at TiVo?
Yes
3. Did you clear your browsers’ cache and/or deleted cookies? Do you get a different result if you do?
Yes, no.
4. Please specify which browser, operating system, and internet provider is giving you your results.
Mozilla Firefox on my mac, Mac for windows, cable internet from Cox
Bene D
June 11th, 2008
1. Does TiVo’s page load for you?
Page not found
2. Is this the first time you tried accessing the web page at TiVo?
No.
3. Did you clear your browsers’ cache and/or deleted cookies? Do you get a different result if you do?
Yes. No.
4. Please specify which browser, operating system, and internet provider is giving you your results.
Firefox, XP, Bell Canada
PiaSharn
June 11th, 2008
When I click on the first link (fotf.html), I get redirected to the other page (kzoffer.html), and it loads just fine. If I try to go directly to the second (kzoffer.html) link, though, I too get an error. (However, the first link still works, although it continues to redirect me.)
I’m using IE with Windows XP (Home Edition), I get my internet access through Alltel, and this was the first time that I tried to visit the site.
Bruce Garrett
June 11th, 2008
omeone else wrote that the first page loaded up fine for them, but they noticed the two different URL’s. So they went to the second link manually and got the same “page not found error.â€
Ditto here. But the second link you are redirected to from the old Focus link isn’t “kzoffer.html” its “kzoffers.html” You’ve dropped the ‘s’ and that’s why it isn’t working.
Of course, the question is why did the father’s day contest and affiliation with Focus suddenly vanish?
Jim Burroway
June 11th, 2008
Bruce,
I suspect that was a coding error on TiVo’s part. I didn’t type the link out, but copied it from my address bar. But yes, it looks like the redirected link is working now.
It looks to me as if TiVo has corrected the problem with their web site — their technical problem, at least. They’ve also apparently scrubbed their site of any mention of Focus On the Family.
But as far as I know, there has been no statement. I think they still owe us an explanation of why they partnered with FOTF in the first place.
Zeke
June 11th, 2008
It loaded immediately for me but there was nothing there about FOF. It was a page for a TiVO KidsZone promotion.
Interestingly, once I got on the page I couldn’t page back to this site. My “back” option wouldn’t work at all from the site. I had to go back to my favorites to get back to BTB.
Bruce Garrett
June 11th, 2008
I suspect that was a coding error on TiVo’s part. I didn’t type the link out, but copied it from my address bar.
Yeah…me too. I think you caught them right in the middle of making the changes to their web site and things were still in a state of flux. And you’re absolutely right…they need to explain themselves. There is something unmitigatedly ugly about holding a father’s day contest that red lines the good words some kids put in for their dads, because either the dad or the kid is gay. It’s not that they’re treating the dads and the kids with contempt. They’re treated that filial love with contempt.
You really see how ugly the mindset is in there with this one. Look at this in light of the idea that “same sex attractions” are the result of poor relationships with parents, particularly the fathers. They seem so concerned that families should have good strong bonds. And here they are, seeing loving kids and loving parents, and they red line it, not like it shouldn’t exist, not like they don’t believe it really exists, but like they’re offended that it’s there.
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