DADT to be Put on Hold by Senate?

Timothy Kincaid

July 13th, 2009

Jason Bellini is reporting: (Daily Beast)

New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is considering bringing the battle over “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” to the Senate this week, by introducing an amendment that would put an 18-month moratorium on the discharge of gays serving in the military

While I favor a full reversal of all institutionalized discrimination against gay citizens and taxpayers, such a process may not be a bad idea. It would allow the administration to demonstrate that removing anti-gay policies did not result in chaos or in loss of troop morale.

Ben in Oakland

July 13th, 2009


they’ll see me naked for 18 months. How can I possibly function, what with the morale of my unit rising in the showers?


Wait, that isn’t what i meant to say. How can i possibly function if i know there’s a ‘mo in my unit, as opposed to merely guessing.



July 13th, 2009

So what happens at the end of the 18 months, when everyone who’s out gets kicked out?


July 13th, 2009

I don’t understand how this would be more likely to pass than a full reversal. Assuming that is the reasoning for it.. Or is just a matter that it would be faster to do?


July 13th, 2009

I agree with Boo, the first thing i thought of when i read this as what happens at the end of the 18 months if DADT isn’t fully repealed.


July 13th, 2009

Looks like an interesting tack to take. By the way, here’s a full list of countries that allow GLBT soldiers to serve openly (source:

Belgium (Nato member)
Britain (Nato member)
Canada (Nato member)
Czech Republic (Nato member)
Denmark (Nato member)
Estonia (Nato member)
France (Nato member)
Germany (Nato member)
Ireland (Nato member)
Italy (Nato member)
Lithuania (Nato member)
Luxembourg (Nato member)
Netherlands (Nato member)
New Zealand
Norway (Nato member)
Slovenia (Nato member)
South Africa
Spain (Nato member)

This is the point that needs to driven home when this is being debated that I am very frustrated to rarely hear mentioned by people. If 14 members of NATO (50% of the group’s membership) can let their GLBT soldiers serve openly, why not us? If ISRAEL, a country that contends with terrorist attacks on a near-daily basis, can let its GLBT soldiers serve openly, why not us?


July 13th, 2009

I second Matt, I’ve sailed with most of our NATO allies.
Its really frustrating to see how our Freedom is slighted when compared to our allies.

*sigh* I just so frustrated over the whole thing..and I’m glad I’m done and gone from it all.


July 15th, 2009

I share concerns that a moratorium means that queers in the military will be used as canon fodder for a while and then kicked out when the military doesn’t desperately need people.

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