Collins/Reid deal in process; vote not tonight

Timothy Kincaid

December 8th, 2010

TMP is reporting that Collins and Reid are in agreement on the number of amendments and that Collins is requesting more time for debate and that it occur immediately following the tax compromise vote. It looks as though they may finally be trying to work together:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid already promised her the 15 amendments, but his initial offer was for a day or two of debate. Here’s her response to reporters tonight, after a Senate vote.

“The majority leader’s allotment of time for to debate those amendments was extremely short, so I have suggested doubling the amount of time, assuring that there would be votes, and making sure that the Republicans get to pick our own amendments as opposed to the Majority Leader.”

“If he does that I will do all that I can to help him proceed to the bill. But if he does not do that, then I will not,” she added.

Late this evening, per Collins’ request, Reid delayed a test vote he’d planned to hold tonight.

The tax bill may take up most of the week, so we may not see an actual Defense Bill cloture vote until perhaps Saturday.

“I have urged the majority leader to postpone the vote…so that we could get the tax bill considered first — which I believe could be on the floor tomorrow — and completed by Saturday, and then move immediately to the DOD bill, but under a fair agreement.”

Jim Burroway

December 8th, 2010

Shhhh…. don’t tell anyone, but I’m starting to feel optimistic. This delay is the best news we’ve gotten all day today.


December 8th, 2010

This agreement drives one more stake in the passage of DADT.

the problem is in the timing of doing DADT behind the tax bill, which is an affront to the nation.

Assuming that the dems find some balls, the Tax bill will not pass, which makes it a sure bet Collins will not let DADT pass cloture.

The opposite is also true, assuming the dems remain their typical ball-less wonder behavior and let the Tax Bill pass, Collins has twisted his aging nutsack into giving a minimum doubling of debate time (read as at least 4 days, probably more) and they get to vote on any amendment they want in their 10 amendments. The dems get 5 amendments.

I will bet you dollars to donuts that they will be throwing every poison pill amendment they can think up to force the dems to vote against the NDAA bill and to cause fury in debate and possible filibuster of their amendments.

McCain will be leading this attack, and I would not be surprised if they tried to attach a bill the made the Billionaire Bailout Tax Cuts permanent or to kill the Dream Act or prevent an ENDA bill from ever being able to be brought to the floor.

I have cued up a funeral dirge on my Ipod and am ready to begin mourning the massacre of the middle classes of America.


December 9th, 2010

@mikebola, it’s my understanding that any amendment the republicans might add will get voted on individually. I think I’m right on that. If not, then of course McCain or McConnell or someone else will poison the whole thing quite quickly and effortlessly. As for the tax bill, the Democrats have already lost that battle. They’ll vote for the “compromise” because they’re weak and spineless. But if that vote takes place on Saturday, DADT repeal could easily take place on Thursday. It could actually happen. I can’t believe it’s actually possible. Let’s hope Brown, Collins, and Murkowski buck their party’s anti-gay values and do what they say they’re going to do before Reid offers them his first born.

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