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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyMarch 21st, 2012
Unfortunately, I am not receiving the feed in a way that makes any intelligible understanding of the process possible. Adding to the difficulty, the New Hampshire legislature seems to vote on amendment numbers and on items on “page 246” which is fine for those voting but gives little information to us out here in the blogosphere.
So I cannot give any form of liveblog. Nor have i found anyone doing so.
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torrentprime
March 21st, 2012
I’m following NH Families twitter. About as much play-by-play as I have time for @work. :)
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
thanks torrentprime
palerobber
March 21st, 2012
amendment 1288 was just rejected. i’m not sure, but it sounded like that was the late amendment that would have put the matter to non-binding referendum.
is that right?
palerobber
March 21st, 2012
btw, official live audio stream is here.
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
It seems – if I follow the tweeting correctly – that Bate’s “compromise” amendment (civil unions and a referendum) failed to get enough votes to pass.
This returns the vote to a hard line position – one that may not have much support.
palerobber
March 21st, 2012
so it looks like amendment 1288 was indeed the Bates amendment which would have put a rollback to civil union to a non-binding referendum.
now a motion to table the bill is being considered.
palerobber
March 21st, 2012
i recommend the twitter feed from the first post. they just posted the vote tally on the motion to table a few seconds before i heard it over the live audio feed!
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
Now the House is discussing whether to ban left-handed marriage. Yes, it’s ridiculous. Yes it make an important point.
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
left handed marriage is safe. whew.
the legislature seems to want to vote on the issue and seems not to want to consider amendments
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
palerobber, I think that we are reaching the same conclusions… it’s all a bit confusing.
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
I think it’s worth noting that there are 350 members voting today. 50 are absent.
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
The total legislators voting is relevant both for this vote and for a veto override.
To override Lynch’s veto, opponents of equality will need to get 2/3 of those present, a lower burden than a 2/3 of the House requirement.
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
Newsflash to wingnuts:
if you go ranting about incest and bestiality and polygamy, you sound like hate-filled extremists.
Oh, on second thought, here’s a mic, Rep. Bates, and let me turn up the volume.
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
Interestingly, the debate appears to be mostly between Republicans. I don’t know if this was an intentional move on our part, but I think it is wise.
It removes the partisan divide issue and takes away the “liberal Democrat agenda to impose blah blah blah” crap and makes it a matter of “what do you really believe: rhetoric or principles?”
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
Now they are voting whether to reconsider the amendment that failed earlier.
palerobber
March 21st, 2012
did this bill just fail?
Timothy Kincaid
March 21st, 2012
And yet again the legislature indicated that it doesn’t want the amendment and doesn’t even want to talk about the amendment anymore.
palerobber
March 21st, 2012
great speech now on the GOP reclaiming its history as leaders on civil rights.
Matt
March 21st, 2012
According to Towleroad, the bill failed, 211-116.
http://www.towleroad.com/2012/03/nhvote.html
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