May 31st, 2012
I frequently insist that most Christians do not hate us. I continue to believe that to be true.
However, the people in this video are viscerally excited about the idea that “ain’t no homos going to make it to heaven”. Not just applauding a small child, but whooping at his message. They aren’t vaguely disinterested, theologically pondering, or politely appreciative. No, they are delighted, genuinely thrilled that their idea of heaven has a “no homos” policy.
That’s hatred.
Now the church has released a “we don’t hate anyone” statement, but it simply isn’t possible to be thrilled that there ain’t no homos going to make it to heaven, unless you hate homos.
But what is even more fascinating are the words that were replaced in the song so as to give it a message that caused the congregation to leap to its feet. The child sings:
“I know the Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong/ the Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong/ Romans one, twenty-six and twenty-seven/ Ain’t no homos gonna make it to Heaven.”
The original words were
“I know the Bible is right / Somebody’s wrong… / I told you once, I told you twice / You can’t make it to Heaven with a sweetheart and a wife”
I guess that just wasn’t inspiring enough.
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Lindoro Almaviva
May 31st, 2012
I have been trying to avoid watching this clip, so far I have been successful. To think this happened a merely 30 miles from where I live (if that much) is sickening.
TomTallis
May 31st, 2012
I don’t watch child abuse videos and this one sure lands in that category. Someone needs to call child protective services.
Rob
May 31st, 2012
You’ve got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You’ve got to be taught
From year to year,
It’s got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught.
You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
You’ve got to be carefully taught.
You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You’ve got to be carefully taught!
Hyhybt
June 1st, 2012
Seems to me that *wanting* ANYONE to go to Hell is missing the point of Christianity.
Ben in Oakland
June 1st, 2012
I believe that- a great many Christians miss the point of Christianity.
Andrew
June 1st, 2012
Actually, I think you’re wrong. The acceptance of gays and lesbians isn’t well rooted in the religiously christian community, but rather, for the most part, in the agnostic or non-practicing communities. This just makes me sick.
Fg68at
June 1st, 2012
I was now interested in the song, the music.
http://lyrics.wikia.com/Gracenote:Bishop_G.E._Patterson:I_Know_The_Bible_Is_Right
Black Singing (for me the best):
The Bible Is Right – Minister James Brown] Houston, Texas. Glory Land Baptist Church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkR0_XrgAzQ
Temple of Deliverance – The Bible Is Right] Singing the Oldtime Way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHaEeYs2SM
The Bible Is Right by the Gospel Song Birds], 1962, Nashville’s Nashboro label
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvhgslUP7os
James Johnson – The Bible is Right – Bethel No. 2 A.P. Church] during Youth Service Night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFfJtZVXO50
I Know the Bible is Right – Kevin Taylor & God’s House of Prayer Young Adult Choir]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VBAktCZrMk
Elder. Donnie Graham ” I know the bible is right”]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiuzhtvQ6c
Truth Of God Holiness Church Choir—I know the Bible is Right]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70i1pf4iyZ4
The Bible Is Right], Spiritual Hearts Of Hollis, New York at Pre- Father’s Concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G_L4GJSeiM
Oakland Convention CTR. If the Bible is right!! old Skhool Harmony~The Gathering Singers!!] (funny lead singers, 1 white girl)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS2HDmXkmMY
I know the bible is Right], Churchin’ at the bowlin alley :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_KZv8H17q4
Minister Terrel J. Ray Singing “…. I know the bible is right!”]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDXisVZ0Mpk
White singing:
Rev. Ray Martin – sings: “The BIBLE is Right & Sombody is Wrong”] Country Style with ?old women? :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30pPUL-dUcA
I Know the Bible is Right] (Piano & Band)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vbeAhHnaUw
“The Bible Is Right”], “me [young] singing, Zaih on drums,Joseph on Keyboard and Aaron on guitar”, Band, festivity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NRNSRoAnJM
The Bible is Right!], Josh singing “The bible is right” with his new microphone and stereo set just after opening his presents the night of Christmas Eve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQlMPv6gfRQ
Organ only
I Know the Bible is Right] Music only, Hammond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXmT_aN9Wwk
I Know the Bible is Right Congregational Song]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwAZ5X_zI4I
Speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fyB_rOo7Yg Benny Hinn – The Bible is Right & Oprah Winfrey is Wrong] (& Obama, Pope) [charismatic, Diktator?, forcefull, dominant man]
There are also complete preaches, some videos long, with the title from different pastors.
homer
June 1st, 2012
There are many fundamentalist Christians who just want us dead. This is becoming increasingly clear as more and more of these sorts of videos come to light. I guess these groups are starting to panic as we are achieving gains in our civil rights.
Blake
June 1st, 2012
More book worshipers. We should start calling them Bibleists (Biblists? Libroists?). It seems unfair to Christians to call them Christians.
james
June 1st, 2012
i think this should show people that we are in a war. i disagree with the writer that most christians dont hate us. they do.. they hate us… the hate the black president… they hate immigrants… they hate black people…they hate muslims, they hate strong women who can think for themslevs they hate anyone who is not white , heterosexual and “american”. maybe in other parts of the country it doesnt seem that way but anywhere in the southeast including florida its not that way. i for one think if obama gets re-elected.. and for me its a big if.. these white evangelical uneducated masses down south will go collectively off the rails on a crazy train and violence will get worse. these are the same people who bombed a black church in birmingham and sicked dogs on peaceful black marchers and turned water hoses on them and lynched them all back in the civil rights days. they will try and do it again to gays
Hyhybt
June 1st, 2012
I doubt that would happen, and fervently hope it doesn’t.
But even if it were to happen that way, overall we (those who survive, anyway) win. Seeing such violent responses to people just peacefully asking to be treated like anyone else is a large part of what swung public opinion around.
Donny D.
June 1st, 2012
I grew up to a significant minority of Christians and every other kind of straight person expressing eliminationist sentiments about us. That only slackened off among theologically reactionary Christians after the Christian Right got together, I think into the ’80s, and decide their theo-political line would be to “love the homosexual” — while “only” hating our sin.
I think post-Baby Boom LGB people have been living in a fools paradise in this regard. The eliminationist anti-gay mentality never went away, it just went underground. You can act shocked if you want that non-Nazi straight people are saying this kind of thing publicly. I won’t waste any time or energy pretending that this was unimaginable.
Donny D.
June 1st, 2012
james wrote,
James, you’re falling for the Christian Right’s lie that they are the sum total of all Christians. That simply isn’t true. That said, you make a lot of other sloppy assumptions, which are also false: a great many Christians are black, are immigrants, like Obama, are LGBT, and aren’t “American”.
More and more I hear this kind of kneejerk anti-Christian attitude, and it’s depressing. Those of you who assume all Christians are the enemy will be fighting a whole lot of people who aren’t against us, as well as some who are.
As to the latter part of your post, though, I’m the last person to buy into the “it can’t happen here” mentality. The roots for society-wide fascism and genocide run deep down into American history.
anteros
June 3rd, 2012
if it existed, who would want to go to heaven anyway? i certainly wouldn’t want my soul to spend eternity with the likes of such hateful souls.
would the idea of going to heaven still excite so many people if it didn’t have a discriminatory entrance policy? i know clubs that would most probably rather be shut down than let black people or gay people in to spend their money there… i choose to stay away from such clubs and enjoy my life.
it seems like for heaven to be a special place, there would have to be an unworthy group (which would, according to popular interpretations of the bible, include gay people) to make others (the chosen few) feel heaven-worthy. so, without gay people to exclude… heaven probably wouldn’t be so special. so, in order for people to look forward to heaven, the hate and discrimination must continue to exist, at least up there somewhere in the heavenly realms. heaven and discrimination need each other.
what i don’t get is, why won’t those who get excited over heaven’s discriminatory policy towards gay people realise that letting gay people live their lives as gay people (e.g. letting gay people marry each other legally) right here on earth actually adds value to the heavenly discrimination that they hold so dear?
Anonymous
June 5th, 2012
I actually found out about this when a fundamentalist Christian 20-something friend of mine posted a link to it on Facebook with this comment:
“A true Christian should never applaud the mention of persons being denied entry to heaven. Our sincere wish should match that of our Lord Jesus Christ, who’s desire is that ALL persons be saved.”
What, precisely, his views are regarding homosexuality and the Bible are not mentioned. I’ve never asked. But it doesn’t sound like he hates anybody who is homosexual.
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