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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyJune 8th, 2012
Here’s another reason why President Barack Obama’s evolution on same-sex marriage matters. Rev. Frederick D. Haynes III of the Friendship-West Baptist Church in Dallas came to Obama’s defense — and, in his way, to the defense of gay people as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2yIaNSFBBw…But whatever you like to ostracize other people it’s because there’s a fear that you have yourself, and the fear that you have finds itself rooted in an ignorance of other people. Or in a projection of your issues. Either there’s ignorance or there is a projection of your issues…It really blows my mind how outraged you are. You are so outraged over what the President said. …
…Have you ever read the Gospel and heard Jesus say anything about homosexuality?…Black folk can’t even deal with homosexuality because we got issues with sexuality. And because we got issues with sexuality we can’t have a healthy discussion about homosexuality. Why, why do you get so upset?”
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Dale
June 8th, 2012
Mr Haynes is very close to the truth. If he were to substitute the word mythologies for the words black folk it would be spot on.
David Roberts
June 8th, 2012
The RSS feed said there was video?
Ben In Oakland
June 8th, 2012
“And because we got issues with sexuality we can’t have a healthy discussion about homosexuality.”
This says it ALL, and not just about black people.
Jim Burroway
June 8th, 2012
Sorry. I’ve fixed the link to the video.
Charles
June 8th, 2012
The African-American community does have a lot of problems with dealing with issues of sexuality, especially with people who are gay. The rate of AIDS infections in the African-American community is far, far too high.
Timothy Kincaid
June 8th, 2012
If you ever wonder about the passion and cadence that drove the civil rights movement in this country half a century ago, it’s that sound that you hear from this preacher.
And I am LOVING the church ladies in their white hats who were applauding. If we can win over the church ladies in the white hats, we win the black community.
Timothy Kincaid
June 8th, 2012
One other irrelevant comment:
For years my friend James – who of all my friends has the most articulate and correct diction – has pronounced the word “huuusband”, with a slightly ironic twist. I never got the reference until right now. He must have heard it in the church he was raised in.
Mark F.
June 8th, 2012
“The rate of AIDS infections in the African-American community is far, far too high.”
So there is a rate of infections that would not be “too high?”
Timothy Kincaid
June 8th, 2012
Mark,
I think that Charles means that the rate of infection in the African American gay community is about nine times that of the white gay community. We seriously need to look at how we allocate and prioritize our efforts and funds.
Charles
June 8th, 2012
“The rate of AIDS infections in the African-American community is far, far too high.†– Charles
So there is a rate of infections that would not be “too high?†– Mark F.
The African-American percentage of AIDS infection in far higher than the general population. I believe that both of us would like for there be no AIDS whatsoever, but the African-American community is the hardest hit. Are these African-American churches doing all they can do to help the gay African-American community? I don’t think so.
F Young
June 8th, 2012
Wow, that was a surprise. Surreal, even.
I didn’t think that Baptist congregations were allowed to be this affirming.
The church’s website lists a membership in the National Baptist Convention, but, according to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Baptist_churches
I guess there is more ideological diversity among Baptists on this issue than I thought.
Scooter J
June 8th, 2012
I am struck by the contrast between this article and the one directly below it. Above we hear from an African-American, Baptist Pastor and beneath that we hear from an African-American, Baptist Pastor. . . are they reading the same Bible?
David Waite
June 8th, 2012
Yes, they are reading from the same bible, but don’t praise or blame that book for their differing attitudes, “For nothing going into a man can defile him, but as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.” (Mark 7:15)
Bernie
June 8th, 2012
Wow, just Wow. That preacher is spot on.
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