Inevitably, NOM will whine

Timothy Kincaid

June 6th, 2013

If there is one thing that annoys the National Organization for (not your) Marriage more than any other, it’s the notion that they are one the losing side of history, that marriage equality is inevitable. No one wants to think of their efforts as pointless, and especially not an organization that has hefty salaries to pay.

For example, in their amusingly titled blog post “The Tide Has Turned! Victory in Illinois” in response to the failure of the Illinois House of Representative to vote on equality, Brian Brown begins his declaration thusly:

Dear Marriage Supporter,

The myth of gay marriage inevitability died last night in Illinois! [emphasis in the original[]

So it must have been a bitter feeling that crept into his soul when he saw the results of a Pew Poll:

Yes, 59% of those who support NOM’s position recognize that equality is inevitable and that any money thrown in NOM’s direction could be better spent on reinforcing their own marriage (or, for that matter, on booze and hookers).

Timothy Kincaid

June 6th, 2013

BTW, my favorite set of stats from the full report are these:

56% believe same-sex marriage goes against their religious beliefs

45% think its a sin to engage in homosexual behavior

40% would be at least somewhat upset if their kid was gay

19% would be very upset if their kid was gay.

Which says an awful lot about how people perceive their religious beliefs and sin. If you really do believe “sin will condemn your soul to eternal torment in hell” and “homosexuality is sin”, then either you’re going to be very very upset if your kid is gay, or you hate your kid.

Perhaps that can be helpful to think of whenever we hear someone like Joel Osteen say that “yes, homosexuality is sin, but we all sin”. They may be telling the truth.

Sure the Peter LaBarberas of the world say “we all sin” but they don’t really mean it. But apparently there actually are a lot of people who see a difference between “the Bible says it’s a sin” and “I personally disapprove”.

Priya Lynn

June 6th, 2013

“Yes, 59% of those who support NOM’s position recognize that equality is inevitable and that any money thrown in NOM’s direction could be better spent on reinforcing their own marriage (or, for that matter, on booze and hookers).”.

LOL! Good one!

Richard Rush

June 6th, 2013

I hope this poll gets enough publicity to reach all of NOM’s donors who won’t want to waste any more of their money on losers.

If there’s one thing I’m excitedly anticipating, it’s when Brian Brown realizes he needs to look for a new job, and quickly decides to polish his resume. As we all know, there are some things you just can’t polish.


June 7th, 2013

But public opinion has a liberal bias!

What’s going to be nice — as in an overdose of schadenfreude — is that NOM will eat those words later this year when marriage equality finally passes in Illinois. (They won’t, actually — they’ll pretend it never happened — but I’ll do my best to make sure everyone knows about it.)

Priya Lynn

June 7th, 2013

Right Hunter. With what happened in Illinois now they’re saying “The tide has turned!” but when marriage equality passes there they’ll say “I don’t think this is a trend.”.


June 7th, 2013

I suspect what’s going to happen in Illinois is that the House will pass the bill at the last possible minute — that is, the last possible minute before potential primary challengers can file — so that some potential “yes” votes will feel safer. I don’t expect it to pass in the special session unless Speaker Madigan really puts his shoulder to the wheel — and Illinois equality advocates make enough noise to drown out the IFI and their tame pastors.

Timothy Kincaid

June 7th, 2013


Good point. Brown had declared that the tide has turned when earlier he was denying the existence of the tide at all


June 8th, 2013

I think it’s a matter of “the spin is the substance.” Brown doesn’t have much else at this point.

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