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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyJune 26th, 2013
While many grass-roots conservatives will rally the troops and, well, send out fund-raising letters, the national Republican leadership seems intent on packing up the marriage issue and shipping it out of the Capital. (Politico)
House Speaker John Boehner, whose leadership spent millions to defend DOMA, said he was “disappointed” in the decision, but did not promise action in the Republican House.
“While I am obviously disappointed in the ruling, it is always critical that we protect our system of checks and balances,” Boehner said in a statement. “A robust national debate over marriage will continue in the public square, and it is my hope that states will define marriage as the union between one man and one woman.”
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, a Virginia Republican, said he’s “disappointed in this decision, and the marriage debate will continue in the states”
Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, the No 2. Senate Republican, said “like it or not, the Supreme Court is the final word on constitutional matters.”
“It sounds to me that that battle will be moving to the states,” Cornyn said. “The issue is not going away and there are going to be havens of traditional values like Texas where I don’t think the law is going to be changed.”
Why yes, campaign donor and right wing grassroots activist, they support your effort to go against the nation’s growing consensus. Just somewhere else. Now move along while they do something that won’t hurt their reelection abilities.
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occono
June 26th, 2013
But there’s now the question of the rights of those married in one state but residing in a non-recognizing one.
Gene in L.A.
June 26th, 2013
Yes, what Occono said. I see email after Facebook post after blog, all saying “DOMA has been found unconstitutional.” Not so. SECTION 3 of DOMA has been found so. Section 2 still allows states to deny recognition of same-sex marriages legal in other states. While this is clearly unconstitutional on its face, it hasn’t been invalidated yet. Until it is, our marriages are still second-class.
MattNYC
June 26th, 2013
“there are going to be havens of traditional values like Texas”
if by “traditional values” you mean the values of the 1300s.
Ben In Oakland
June 26th, 2013
about those million you spent defending DOMa, Mr. speaker?
Will
June 26th, 2013
“Their re-election abilities” . . . too funny — WHAT re-election abilities? They’ve rendered themselves irrelevant.
Steve
June 26th, 2013
@occono
That’s settled law really. Aside from a few exceptions like Social Security and VA benefits that may trigger a lawsuit, what counts for federal benefits is usually the state of celebration.
Even without Section 2 states have always been free to ignore laws from other states. Which is why that part hasn’t been challenged yet. It’s messed up and no way to run a modern country, but it’s how it has been for a long time.
Hyhybt
June 26th, 2013
Why does their speaking so rationally just make me think they’re up to something?
occono
June 26th, 2013
Steve: Yeah it’s the laws that are based on residence or are ambiguous I mean.
Some rights are explicitly based on if you are married in a state, some are explicitly based on if you are married in YOUR state, and some don’t say either way.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwyHNoblIr47VmlEMXE1a3BlOXc/edit
I’m saying I’d be surprised if they’re saying they’re not going to try to legislate to make the ambiguous federal rights depend on your residence, just for the sake of it.
occono
June 26th, 2013
And yeah section 2 is a waste of time to challenge. People should go directly challenge the marriage bans themselves, aim to eventually get a Loving-style ruling (eventually).
Jim Hlavac
June 26th, 2013
Does Cornyn he know that the mayor of Houston is gay? In a long term relationship? Egad.
Lord_Byron
June 26th, 2013
Texas is going to be a purple state by 2016 so let’s see how long “traditional values” are enforced in Texas.
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