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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyOctober 27th, 2008
If California’s Proposition 8 fails, it’ll be Armageddon, and all that — according to Charles Colson and Tony Perkins:
“This vote on whether we stop the gay-marriage juggernaut in California is Armageddon,” said Charles W. Colson, the founder of Prison Fellowship Ministries and an eminent evangelical voice, speaking to pastors in a video promoting Proposition 8. “We lose this, we are going to lose in a lot of other ways, including freedom of religion.”
Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, a conservative Christian lobby based in Washington, said in an interview, “It’s more important than the presidential election.”
“We’ve picked bad presidents before, and we’ve survived as a nation,” said Mr. Perkins, who has made two trips to California in the last six weeks. “But we will not survive if we lose the institution of marriage.”
Why the doom and gloom? Prop 8 proponents are now raising the scare tactic that Prop 8’s passage will mean that churches that refuse to marry same-sex couples will be sued, or ministers will be jailed if they preach against homosexuality.
This, of course, is not possible in the United States because of the First amendment. Christian Identity churches are free to preach White Supremacy and anti-semitism, and fundamentalist protestant extremists are free to call the Pope the Anti-Christ. Nobody gets thrown in jail for any of that. And the Catholic Church has been free to refuse to marry anyone who has been divorced, no matter how many divorce papers or civil marriage licenses a couple can waive in front of the priest.
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ted
October 27th, 2008
Oh, come on, Jim! What’s the law or truth have to do with any of this?
I really hope that their desperate rhetoric is backfiring as badly as McCain and Palin’s.
I really don’t think that the undecideds on this are very susceptible to “Armageddon” stuff.
Elaygee
October 27th, 2008
How people can believe that silly crap these churches spew is beryond me.
johnson
October 27th, 2008
Nothing smells quite so desperate as the far right when they’re in trouble. Hopefully the only Armageddon we’ll see is the End of Tony Perkins and the FRC.
Dave Hughes
October 27th, 2008
My husband was talking to employees at our nearby Safeway store (in Chandler, AZ) over the weekend, and they reported that they are selling out of powdered milk and other “stockpile” supplies. Apparently, the local Mormon and other Palinesque “last days” churches are telling their flocks to stock up and hunker down, because if Obama is elected, Armegeddon will be upon us.
Of course, this begs the logical question: if they will be raised up to heaven during the rapture, why would they need to stockpile earthly provisions?
Louie
October 28th, 2008
It was my understanding that many Christians look forward to “armageddon”, because that will signal the “end of days” and the return of Messiah.
So, given that logic. Shouldn’t they be in favor of prop. 8? Making sure that it DOES PASS so that God will be angry and finally take matters into his own hands?
By working so hard and donating so many MILLIONS of dollars to hinder and stop same-gender couples from “civil” marriage under the eyes of the State of California, won’t that prohibit the second coming?
SO, if you are a “true” Christian and look forward to the “end of days” and wish for the Lord to finally bring sanity to the entire planet, GET OUT OF THE WAY and allow these things to happen!
Vote “NO” on Prop. 8! Allow same-gender couples to marry and bring about armageddon FASTER!
Let’s git ‘er done!
California – Vote “NO” on Prop. 8!
Arizona – Vote “NO” on Prop. 102! AGAIN!
Florida – Vote “NO” on Amendment 2!
Connecticut – Vote “NO” on Question 1!
Louie
October 28th, 2008
Oops!
I wrote “Making sure that it DOES PASS so that…”, I MEANT “Making sure that it DOESN’T PASS so that God will be angry and finally take matters into his own hands?”
I’m up past my bedtime, what do you expect!
Ugh!
California – Vote “NO” on Prop. 8!
Arizona – Vote “NO” on Prop. 102! AGAIN!
Florida – Vote “NO” on Amendment 2!
Connecticut – Vote “NO” on Question 1!
Peterson Toscano
October 28th, 2008
Chuck Colson is such a drama queen!
Sapphocrat
October 28th, 2008
What Louie said. You’d think these end-of-timers would welcome The End, so they can be Raptured up on a cloud to meet Jesus, without having to go through all that painful business of, like, you know, actually dying.
Me, I hope they’re right, so they get the hell off my planet, ASAP.
(BTW, I hear the Oral Roberts family compound is stunningly luxurious, for anyone looking for new digs around Tulsa.)
Mark
November 1st, 2008
One wonders about the commandment (not suggestion) against lying…
Talisyn
November 1st, 2008
ummm…actually LDS members have been told for ages to have a food storage system. I would believe the current economy has more to do with stockpiling food than any belief in a “mad max’ future.
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