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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyJuly 2nd, 2009
Not exactly. He’s made a career out of homophobia for nearly two decades now, but he now claims that he’s turning his attention to other matters:
With the June 17th publication of my final book on the homosexual issue, “Redeeming the Rainbow: A Christian Response to the ‘Gay’ Agenda,” I have completed 20 years of service as a front-lines opponent of the homosexual movement. “Redeeming the Rainbow,” which I have published as a free book in pdf format, encompasses all that I have learned through this long tour of duty and I believe there is little more that I could add on the issue.
As of now I am turning my attention to other interests and needs of the pro-family movement and will no longer be monitoring the day-to-day developments of the culture war regarding homosexuality as closely, nor posting stories about it to this site.
I somehow suspect that he’s not going very far. It’s only two paragraphs later when he reveals another update to his book, The Pink Swastika:
I have one last major project to complete on the homosexual issue, the publication of a 5th Edition of my book (co-authored with Jewish researcher Kevin E. Abrams) “The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party.” It will be published in a web-based, documentation-emphasized format. That project will begin soon and a link to it will be available on this page from the early stages, so that readers can follow its ongoing progress and make use of the facts and documentation in their own pro-family advocacy.
The Pink Swastika is Lively’s primary claim to fame. In it, he claims that Nazism was, at its core, a homosexual movement, and that the gay rights movement today is a barely-disguised update of Nazi ideology. He cites the Holocaust as but one example of the inevitable consequences of homosexuality gaining public prominence. His blatant historical revisionism has earned his Abiding Truth ministries a spot in one of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of twelve anti-gay hate groups.
So no, he’s not giving up his holocaust revisionism anytime soon. And since we will all get to see his “ongoing progress” with his online edition, I doubt he’ll leave it alone when he’s done.
Lively says he will continue to be available for conferences, seminars and the like, and I’m sure The Pink Swastika will continue to be the centerpiece of his talks. More recently, he took his Holocaust revisionism abroad with a three-day conference in Kampala, Uganda, where he peddled his wares alongside Exodus board member Don Schmierer. That conference called for the strengthening of Uganda’s anti-homosexuality law by adding the “option” of forced conversion therapy. Uganda’s law already provides for a life sentence. Lively’s book is now being used by Ugandan religious leaders to fuel an ongoing public campaign of vigilantism and police detentions and torture.
Meanwhile, Dr. Warren Throckmorton, an associate professor at the Christian-based Grove City College, has continued to add to his online series debunking The Pink Swastika. His latest installment is probably the most devastating, where Throckmorton catches Lively lying about his source information virtually red-handed. Throckmorton was joined in this endeavor by associate professor of history, Dr. Jon David Wyneken, whose Ph.D. is in modern German history with a focus on the period between 1933 and 1955. Together, they have undertaken a methodical exposé of Lively’s shoddy scholarship.
Throckmorton’s efforts seem to be having some effect. Leadership University, an online ministry affiliated with Campus Crusade for Christ, once proudly hosted a condensed outline of his Pink Swastika thesis. That article, “Homosexuality and the Nazi Party,” has recently been removed.
[Hat tip: Ex-gay Watch]
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Marisa
July 2nd, 2009
It’s funny: I thought holocaust was all the atheists fault. It must have been those gay atheists. Who knew?
William
July 2nd, 2009
I’ve already commented earlier today (over on Ex-Gay Watch) on Scott Lively’s megalomaniac atttitude.
It must be something like a year ago that, having seen some videos of his speeches delivered in former Eastern Bloc countries, I e-mailed him to ask whether he’d never been taught that lying is wrong. He replied accusing me, if I remember correctly, of self-righteousness, and telling me that I had to submit to the Word of God.
I really think that he has managed to convince himself that his campaign is literally an “opus Dei” and that falsehood in aid of his “righteous cause” doesn’t count as lying.
Nancye
July 2nd, 2009
To link the holocaust with a nazi homosexual movement and imply this generalizes to a gay agenda today is a gross distortion of both history and the truth. “Shoddy scholarship” doesn’t come near to describing such blatent clap trap.
Christopher Waldrop
July 2nd, 2009
I find it interesting that he explains his Pink Swastika co-author is “Jewish researcher Kevin E. Abrams”.
Does that mean Mr. Abrams is Jewish, or that he researches Judaism? Possibly both, but the phrasing is a little odd and makes me think that Abrams’s credentials are just as bogus as Lively’s.
fannie
July 2nd, 2009
“I have completed 20 years of service”…. “through this long tour of duty”
I find it really despicable that, when describing his anti-gay activities, he uses terminology that is typically reserved for those who make huge sacrifices for our nation- like members of the armed services. I’m not a big fan of militarism, but I think it does a real disservice to our men and women in uniform when people like Lively misappropriate a phrase like “tour of duty” and apply it to their hate work.
AJD
July 2nd, 2009
He’s “publishing” the book as a free PDF, obviously because his work is too shoddy to be professionally published.
Penguinsaur
July 2nd, 2009
Anyone who doesn’t start laughing or crying when told the gays were behind the holocaust just doesn’t care about facts.
Makkabee
July 3rd, 2009
No, Nazism was a gay plot. Sneaky of them trying to throw the world off the scent by publicly condemning homosexuality, stripping gays of jobs and rights, shipping them to concentration camps and murdering them in carload lots. Clever clever National Socialists, you would have had us all fooled if it weren’t for that meddling Scott Lively and his crazy dog. Jinkies!
Kalevi
October 19th, 2009
That pamphlet still occasionally appears in the more intellectually handicapped sections of the blogosphere. It’s all the rage with anti-gay wingnuts ranging from angry young Christian men to armchair intellectuals with a Freudian-Marxist bent. One thing I’ve come to learn is there is nothing easier than to read “homosexuality” into any political movement you want to oppose, or to read the defining characteristics of those movements into homosexuality.
Doug
February 26th, 2010
It is obvious not one of the condemning posters have read The Pink Swastika. To dismiss it is to dismiss every reference, every historical document and every historical witness. That is blatant ignorance and academic dishonesty. One can dsisagree with some sources or parts of his premise, but an honest student can’t dismiss many of his conclusions. Because one is unhappy with history doesn’t make it dissappear.
penguinsaur
February 26th, 2010
“It is obvious not one of the condemning posters have read The Pink Swastika. To dismiss it is to dismiss every reference, every historical document and every historical witness. That is blatant ignorance and academic dishonesty. One can dsisagree with some sources or parts of his premise, but an honest student can’t dismiss many of his conclusions. Because one is unhappy with history doesn’t make it dissappear.”
If your gonna troll with bigoted BS why go into a thread that’s a year old?
Timothy Kincaid
February 26th, 2010
Those interested in reinvesting in this old thread can ready dismiss Lively’s “references”, “historical documents” and every (keep a straight face now) “historical witnesses” by checking out Warren Throckmorton’s multi-part series.
For Doug and the others who are unfamiliar, Throckmorton is a conservative evangelical Christian professor who happens to have an interest in pursuing truth within Christian circles on the subject of sexual orientation. I don’t always agree with Warren, but he’s honest.
Also, in the mid 90’s, a group starting tracking down and reading Lively’s “sources”. The result is amusing.
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