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One Day After California…

Jim Burroway

May 16th, 2008

…Nineteen Minnesota lawmakers (the maximun number of allowable sponsors) have introduced the Marriage and Family Protection Act, which would allow for same sex marriages in Minnesota.



Ben in Oakland
May 16th, 2008 | LINK

I’m a little unclear. does this mean that they are trying to protect marriage nad family by allowing gay marriage? How can they twist those wrods so badly?

And before anybody starts screaming, yes, this is an ironical question.

May 16th, 2008 | LINK

I love the irony, Ben. I have to admit, it’s kind of nice to hear legislation with such a title which is for marriage equality.

May 17th, 2008 | LINK

I have one very confusing idea floating around my head. I heard from some news report that there is an initiative that gov arnold said he would veto that would amend the consititution to make marriage a man and woman only institution. But what i dont get is what exactly did the courts state as unconstitutional? Wasnt that the majority-voted-for amendment to define marriage as a man and woman only institution?

Timothy Kincaid
May 18th, 2008 | LINK


No it was not a constitutional amendment. It was a voter initiative that changed the legal code, not the constitution.

The court determined that this voter-created law was inconsistent with the protections granted by the state constitution. There is a movement to change the constitution so that it no longer protects gay people and their access to equality under the law when it comes to marriage. Signatures have been turned in and are being counted to see if there are enough so that the initiative can be presented to voters in November.

Gov. Schwarzenegger cannot “veto” a constitutional amendment. However, he has promised to oppose efforts to pass such an amendment.

May 18th, 2008 | LINK

Oh well, that makes sense with what i heard from an anti-gay marriage proponent. He said that this issue was not for a court to decide but the ppl.

So i guess this means that if enough ppl vote for it in November then gays will NOT be allowed to marry then?

Also… are there any other states that have already turned in the votes, voted for and succesfully amended the constitution?

If some states amend the constitution … would this ‘violation’ in ‘gay rights’ be subjected to other higher authorities and be overturned? Or is the majority(christians) the voice that determines what is permitted(morally right) or not?

May 18th, 2008 | LINK

If a
“voter initiative… changed the legal cod…” what exactly are we hoping for in the elections? They already voted once, they will vote again… and win.

it could be possible in the fiture to re-amend the consititution no?

May 19th, 2008 | LINK

Here in CA.the polls are pretty much split right down the middle on the issue of state constitutional amendment to ban marriage equity:49% are for, 48% against,according to Gallop Poll published Saturday in the Sac.Bee. However the same people in that survey said that 56%were against legalizing same-sex marriage to 40% for it, go figure.

May 19th, 2008 | LINK

No matter what happens here in Nov., and it’s going to be close,WE have no intention of letting the right-wingers shut us down!

Walter Hollis
May 19th, 2008 | LINK

Well…………..@ least they cannot reproduce, thank goodness.

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