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How Long Can You Believe a Liar?

Timothy Kincaid

July 24th, 2008

One of the reasons that our readers come to Box Turtle Bulletin is because we try very hard to be honest with you. Yes, we have our shared perspectives and our biases, but we try not to put words here that cannot be supported.

Which makes me wonder, why do anti-gay liars get and maintain a readership base? After the first time or two that I found a source to be lying to me, I’d not go back.

Take, for example, this claim from World Net Daily about the AFA McDonalds boycott:


Following a link from the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce’s website leads to a promotional for children’s Happy Meals at the McDonalds website.

Now if I had been told all my life that “homosexuals recruit your children” and that “homosexuals are pedophiles”, this might frighten me. If it were true.

But of course, it isn’t.

The NGLCC corporate link is to If you go to that site, click the USA link, scroll over the picture of kids playing, and click a pop-up, you get to the Happy Meal page.

But saying that NGLCC links to the McDonalds corporate website just isn’t frightening enough. So they lie.

Ya know, even if I were a Good Christian trembling in fear of the Homosexual Agenda I would be annoyed at being fed lies. But, then again, I’d probably also be amused to see that the NGLCC also links to Burger King



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Also, look at how gender- and hetero-normative that advertisement for those Happy Meals is! Girls as pretty pretty princesses and boys as yarr pirates.


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“why do anti-gay liars get and maintain a readership base?”

Because they tell people with pre-conceived prejudices what they want to hear. Whether it’s verifiably true is irrelevant.

Emily K
July 24th, 2008 | LINK

Wait, if the homos are trying to recruit kids, shouldn’t McD’s be linking to the NGLCC site from the Happy Meal ad, rather than the other way around? Does WND think by telling them the site links to a kids ad that the gay site is providing its gay viewers with some kind of “erotic” imagery? I don’t understand.

SisterCoyote: I was the girl who would’ve asked for the pirate toy. I hated all that “heteronormative” crap – even before I knew what it was, and that it had a name.

I concur with AJD. It’s how Faux News gets their audience. And their whole “We Report, You Decide” slogan is really a myth. The audience has already decided – they come to hear their decisions confirmed with “Reports.”

July 24th, 2008 | LINK

Emily –

Yeah, I would rather have had the pirate toys, too.

July 24th, 2008 | LINK

I must be “homonormative”. I would rather be the pirate. Not just because I love parrots but it’s the frilly shirts that does it for me.

July 25th, 2008 | LINK

No, Emily, clearly the scary homos are going to use the happy meals to lure your children in! It’s like a paedophile advert…

Samantha Davis
July 25th, 2008 | LINK

Snow White or pirates…

I know! How about a snow pirate! :-D

Willie Hewes
July 25th, 2008 | LINK

Timothy, it’s pedophile.

I’m confused about what they’re even trying to say, if it were true.

Patrick ONeill
July 25th, 2008 | LINK

The entire world view of the religious is to claim what is patently untrue, to repeat it at every opportunity, and to challenge the morality of anyone who points out the truth.

There is no reason that their treatment of gays should differ from anything else.

Oh yea – that “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” thingy ?

Pretend it isn’t there

July 25th, 2008 | LINK

Samantha – Is Ice Pirates close enough?

Willie – it’s pedophile on this side of the pond. I believe Timothy’s correct on that side of the pond.

July 25th, 2008 | LINK

“Which makes me wonder, why do anti-gay liars get and maintain a readership base? After the first time or two that I found a source to be lying to me, I’d not go back.”

Look up “cognizant dissonance”

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