Conversations At A Temple Protest

Jim Burroway

November 17th, 2008

Police estimate that about 300 demonstrators gathered in front of the Newport Beach, CA Temple of the LDS church this morning to protest the church’s dominant role in passing California’s Proposition 8, stripping gays and lesbians of their rights. The protest began at about 10:00 a.m. an lasted until about 1:00 p.m.

The OC Register’s article contains the usual narrative — descriptions of people protesting, the usual quotes from both sides, an argument broke out between protesters and a passer-by. You have to dig into the Register’s online slideshow (which, I suspect isn’t available in the print edition) to get to the more interesting stories:

Cindy Massaro, center, and Jennifer Ras, left, offered cold water and snacks to protesters. Massaro apologized as a Christian to protesters, “Our sin has contributed to division in the world,” she said.

A passer-by reacts to protesters in front of the Mormon temple in Newport Beach on Sunday.

“I figured I’d speak a little louder if I wore this,” said John Remy of Irvine who came in support of a protest against the passage of Proposition 8 on Sunday. Remy is a former Mormon elder and wore clothing from when he was a missionary. He and his wife were members of the Mormon church and attended the Newport California Mormon Temple in the past. “Having been a member of the church, I felt duty-bound to atone and duty-bound to be a critic of the choice it is making,” he said.


November 17th, 2008

That woman in the car looks so hateful. Funny how they claim religion makes you moral yet it makes them behave like that.

When we were in SJ the other day one person drove by waving a Bible at us. If he weren’t on the opposite side of the road I would have advised him to read Matthew 7:12. It seems so few of our opponents have read it, and they certainly don’t follow it.


November 17th, 2008

In the linked newspaper article it states:

“…Clayton said the church is not against gays, and that many gays take part in the church.”

That nebulous number described by the adjective: many.

I dare predict the spokesman Clayton cannot produce ONE example of an out gay Mormon who takes part in his Church. Not one. Because, (do I have to tell Mormons this?) if you are gay you’re NOT WELCOME in an LDS Church. You will be severely limited in your participation even if you are completely chaste and celibate. You’re more likely a seat warmer in the chapel.

There might be some rare examples of self-loathing gay Mormons going to an LDS Ward-House each Sunday but hardly what you call: “many”.


November 17th, 2008

Kudos to Mr. Remy for taking a brave stand for equality and being against discrimination!


November 17th, 2008

A couple of Mormon missionaries showed up at my door last night, and we got into the Prop 8 thing. One thing I have to give them credit for- they were 100 times more honest than virutally all other Prop 8 supporters. They stated quite openly that they thought it was ok to use the government to force their religious beliefs on people.


November 17th, 2008


After perusing some of the Mormon discussion boards I’ve seen the same attitude. They think they’re doing nothing wrong by forcing their views on people in any way necessary. They’re ‘saving’ us whether we want it or not. And if anybody dare protest we’re the bad guys because we’re preventing them from practicing their religion as they see fit. Scary.

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