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  1. Joel
    March 7, 2009

    On Friday, the Davis County Attorney’s Office filed first-degree felony charges of rape and sodomy on a child against Linda R. Nef, 46, and Valynne Bowers, 39.

    Good to know that if someone rapes someone it’s not as bad as when someone gets sodomized, hence the distinction no?

    Anyways, did these female teachers use a dildo with this guy or was one of them a transexual?

  2. Eddie89
    March 7, 2009

    Who knows what kind of kinky sex these two heterosexual women were into.

    Perhaps they used some other instrument to sodomize this innocent 13 year old boy.

    I wonder if Utah State Senator Buttars has any comments about this case? Does he consider them a worse threat to America than Islamic terrorists?

  3. Eddie89
    March 7, 2009

    Bowers has been a teacher in the Davis County School District since 1996, working for a decade at an elementary school before moving to Bountiful Junior High in 2006 to teach math.

    Bowers has been a teacher for 13 years, who knows how many more victims have been preyed on by this monster!

  4. Crowepps
    March 7, 2009

    The statute in question:

    Utah 76-5-403. Sodomy, Forcible sodomy

    (1) A person commits sodomy when the actor engages in any sexual act with a person who is 14 years of age or older involving the genitals of one person and mouth or anus of another person, regardless of the sex of either participant.

    (2) A person commits forcible sodomy when the actor commits sodomy upon another without the other’s consent.

    (3) Sodomy is a class B misdemeanor. Forcible sodomy is a felony of the first degree.”


  5. Jason D
    March 8, 2009

    Thanks for the statue. Some people forget that “sodomy” isn’t just one thing, it often comprises a variety of acts. In some places, “sodomy” is anything that isn’t heterosexuals in the missionary position.

  6. Regan DuCasse
    March 8, 2009

    EEEEEWWWWW, teenagers! Talk about a knobbly and strange tribe of mutants? What kind of adult would want to have sex with such a creature?! I mean they are interesting after a fashion, but mostly infuriating and it’s us adults that are SUPPOSED to move them in the direction of noble adulthood.

    Besides, they only have 18 precious years to grow, learn and gain hopefully supportive interests. I wouldn’t take away ANY of those years whatsoever. Kids need them so badly.
    I love kids, and to think these adult monsters would do that to them makes me want to put them away forever.

    I have a theory. You all remember the play and movie “Tea and Sympathy”?
    It was about a ‘sensitive, artistic’ high school boy whose peers probably thought him to be gay.

    Well, considering how much straight people want to sexually initiate gay people to ‘turn’ them into heterosexual, it would surprise me if that isn’t part of these women’s motives.

    And, twisted as it might seem, I bet the parents wouldn’t want to prosecute if that was the case.

    But boys are horny little devils to begin with and it’s not hard to seduce them. But confusing them about adult behavior and putting them at such serious risk for all manner of adult problems is why one absolutely cannot indulge CHILDREN in such behaviors.

    I just hope these women get put UNDER the jail. There is a definite double standard when it comes to same sex issues like this as opposed to opposite sex ones. As you all well know.

    But gay pedo/epheba -philes get more jail time and longer probation periods than their hetero counterparts.
    And sometimes the one defining factor in any time at all is a pregnancy. If there is one, the parents are even LESS likely to demand prosecution.

    When it comes to TEEN pregnancy, especially in the inner city, this is most evident.

    I wish the MSM would deal with this in an effective way.
    Whenever I hit my crime databases at work, and hear all the lame excuses people have for excluding gay people from ANY kind of work of their choice or marriage, the anti gay factions are laughable in their hypocrisy.

  7. Joel
    March 8, 2009

    “(1) A person commits sodomy when the actor engages in any sexual act with a person who is 14 years of age or older involving the genitals of one person and mouth or anus of another person, regardless of the sex of either participant”

    Wait.. i thought this law was banned or insignificant with the Lawrence and Texas case?

  8. Leonard Drake
    March 8, 2009

    Joel, while charges of sodomy were declared unconstitutional for CONSENTING INDIVIDUALS, the age of consent in Utah is 14, and then only if both parties are consenting. Sexual conduct with a teacher would not constitute consent, under any circumstance, as one party (the teacher) would be in a position of “power or influence” (as it is, I believe, called in Arizona code). Nevertheless, this child is 13 years of age, which is why the teachers were charged with sodomy with a minor (i.e. “anything other than vaginal-penile sexual conduct”).

    Fourteen years of age is, as age-of-consent laws, pretty low.

  9. Leonard Drake
    March 8, 2009

    Last note, in reference to Lawrence v. Texas: Just because the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated the remaining sodomy laws does not mean they no longer remain “on the books.” They just are not ENFORCEABLE. (Although Virginia already tried.)

    The legislators and governors in many of the states where these laws remain don’t have the courage or the couilles to actually remove THOSE laws, now, do they?

  10. Emily K
    March 8, 2009

    Yeah well in Mormon Utah, child brides were (are?) a traditional among the faithful.

  11. Timothy (TRiG)
    March 9, 2009

    Age of consent is 13 in Spain, which strikes me as a bit weird.


  12. Joel
    March 9, 2009

    I wonder leonard…
    Does the ruling of the lawrence vs texas also affect US territories like Puerto Rico?

    Im believe i read they do but i’ve been fairly starkely opposed that it doesnt actually apply to them. Just wanted to make sure.

  13. Leonard Drake
    March 10, 2009

    Joel, I *believe* Lawrence v. Texas also applies to Puerto Rico and other U.S. Territories. The ONLY arena in which sodomy is still punishable is under the Military Code (which, as we all know, is only used to prosecute and harass heterosexual couples, *wink*, *wink*, *nudge*, *nudge*).

  14. Zeke
    March 10, 2009

    Why is it that when women molest young boys the headline ALWAYS reads “Woman SEDUCES Under-age Boy” instead of “Woman MOLESTS Under-age Boy” the way they rightfully do when a man molests a girl?

    By saying they “seduced” the boy it essentially says that the woman “encouraged” the boy to have sex but didn’t molest him. This diminishes the woman’s role and places the responsibility for the action on the boy.

    I find this to be outrageous and I’m disappointed that BTB chose to use this verbage in their headline.

  15. Jessica
    April 4, 2011

    Really Emily? Maybe do your homework before making assumptions or allowing HBO to be your educational resource VIA Big Love. “Mormon Utah”, as you so eloquently put it, does not practice the marrying of child brides. There is a massive misconception, although sadly poor distinction for “outsiders” regarding the Mormon (LDS) religion and the incestuous polygamists who branched off from the LDS religion when polygamy was banned. The Polygamists are NOT Mormons, nor are they of the LDS religion, they call themselves the FLDS, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who do in fact practice polygamy which does believe in “the child brides”.

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