Quip of the Day

Timothy Kincaid

March 23rd, 2009

In a Letter to the Editor printed in the Salt Lake Tribune, Christian England concluded as follows:

You may think we’re out to convert your children and run the world, but we’re not the ones with missionaries.


March 23rd, 2009

Right-wingers and Christianists who organize and missionize tend to think there’s an “other” side which does the same in opposition.


March 23rd, 2009

And if the missionaries don’t succeed, then the Mormons will just baptize you after you die:



March 23rd, 2009

Where does Mr. Kincaid find the time to read the Salt Lake Tribune!?

I had to chuckle at Mr. England’s letter-to-the-editor when I read it in the Sunday’s paper. It was right about the same time my family was off to the ritualistic dedication of their newest LDS Temple and just after I had read about the Black Party in New York City.

Emily K

March 23rd, 2009


Jim Burroway

March 23rd, 2009

Oh, snap!

Lynn David

March 24th, 2009

Unfortunately, that’s not what they are claiming in Uganda….



March 24th, 2009

Also from the Salt Lake Tribune:

The rabid anti-gay group America Forever tried to place an ad in both the SL Tribune and the Deseret News newspapers. They’re upset that gays and producers (Tom Hanks) of HBO’s Big Love are anti-religion because they portrayed some sacred Mormon Temple ritual.

“It is another typical secular assault by gays and lesbians on religion as a whole,”


Jason D

March 24th, 2009

I’ve often thought the same thing. Missionaries, private religious schools, if anyone is trying to indoctrinate, it’s not us.

El Rose

March 24th, 2009

Missionaries are called to preach the Gospel, which is conversion from sin. Gay activists preach another gospel: conversion to sin. Big difference.

Mad John

March 24th, 2009

Cowboy @ #3: You mean while some Mor(m)ons were off working to impose their toxic little superstition on more peaceful folks, some gays were off minding their own business?

Sounds like business as usual to me.


March 24th, 2009

No, Mad John, I’m saying both groups have their respective “rituals” they observe: Mormons in their Temples and gays with their circuit parties devotees.

But, I will admit, there isn’t any concerted effort of gays/lesbians to get organized and spread their message like the Mormons do.

Mad John

March 24th, 2009

Ah, the favored tactic of the dishonest and intellectually lazy: Slur an entire group by the behavior of a few members.

Let’s elucidate the point you’re trying to make, shall we?

What overall percentage of gay people do you think attend circuit parties? What should that mean for the rights of gay people in general, and why?

What percentage of young Mormons do you think have attended parties? What should that mean for the rights of Mormons in general, and why?

Is there a principle you’re trying to articulate here?

Ben in Oakland

March 24th, 2009

““It is another typical secular assault by gays and lesbians on religion as a whole,”’

This i love. What is a ‘typical secular assault’? What makes it typical? Disagreeing with religious dominionists that they get a pass on being moral and kind human beings because they are acting out what they are pleased to call, and believe is, sincere religous belief?

What about Gene Robinson? Is he assaulting religion in a typically secular way? Or does he get another equally ominous but meaningless adjective? Something about being a worm in the body of christ, I’m sure. There’s an image for you.

Typical secular assault is a masterpiece of propaganda speak. It means nothing, but it is has an ominous, threatening tone that resonates as a Sarah Palin brand of whine and politics. We’re the REAL people, the ones that matter, the ones that are good. It has no substance, but it appeals to people who are not members of the reality based community, and answers their vague fears that Everything is Going to Hell in a Handbasket.

More and more, it seems to me that these people present as great a threat to peace and progress as the religious and political dominionists.

Actually, I just realized I said the same thing in a different form years ago: 90% of the world’s problems are casued because 90% of the people 90% unconscious 90% of the time.


March 25th, 2009

Oh, snap! is right! HaHa! Love it! Missionaries as well as the “position” deserves religious people! HaHa!

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