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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyApril 16th, 2009
The Baptist Press says this about Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International:
For Chambers, the Day of Truth is personal. He struggled with and overcame unwanted homosexual attractions as a teenager and young adult. He is now married, and he and his wife and have two children.
“Many people don’t know that change is possible or that there’s any alternative out there for people,” he said. “… There was a time when I was trying to fit that with my life, trying to marry my homosexuality and my Christianity and trying to see if I could be a good gay Christian. It didn’t work.”
Really? Alan overcame unwanted homosexual attractions as a teenager and young adult? And his wife and children are evidence of this?
Now that’s a fascinating retelling.
Because I also happen to know that Alan has said that while his attraction has greatly diminished over the course of 16 years, he still struggles with homosexual temptation and lives a life of denial of what comes naturally to him. And it seems that in their effort to paint Alan as an ideal family man they forgot to mention that Alan took nine months to consummate his marriage or that his two children are adopted.
If Alan’s going to tell kids about the “alternative out there for people”, he should tell them what that alternative really is. But I guess telling the truth wouldn’t serve his goal of vilifying and hindering those good-hearted students who are trying to stem the flood of abuse against their gay classmates in public schools.
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John
April 16th, 2009
Alan Chambers is a self confessed pathologic liar. Expecting him to tell the truth about anything (I sort of wonder if his name is even Alan), makes about as much sense as expecting the sun to rise in the West.
He is hopelessly messed up. He has hitched his star to the thugs in Uganda and those here in the US that are part of the Watchman organization. He campaigns against anti-bullying and safety measures to protect gay students.
What is most ironic about all of this is that I truely believe that he was probably teased if not bullied in school. He is still so feminine, despite his show marriage and kids, that I can only imagine that he was even more so when younger. He has so little empathy and such emptiness in his heart that he cannot see himself in that poor kid being so mercilessly teased and bullied at school that the kid is thinking about killing himself to make the torture end. At this point, Alan truely has nothing good to contribute on any level.
PGMT
April 16th, 2009
For what is worth, here is Alan Chambers on the intimacy and adopted children issue:
“1. The “intimacy†issue you referred to was not a sexual issue or an issue with intimacy, it was a physical issue that prevented penitration. There was never an issue with arrousal, attraction or anything of the sort.
2. We adopted children because Leslie and I are both infertal. And, I am absolutely grateful that after 7 years of trying to conceive that we never did because we have the two most amazing children. I wouldn’t trade all of the biological children in the world for the two I have.”
http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2007/09/ex-gays-survivors-and-therapists-debate-on-fox-morning-show/#comment-29311
I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if there are other places where he contradicts this explanations.
Emily K
April 16th, 2009
I thought he described in Wayne Besen’s book “Anything But Straight” that he couldn’t get aroused; but additionally, that he “dreaded” his wedding night. His wife claims they have a “great sex life.” I dunno, I really just don’t know. Maybe I don’t WANT to know.
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April 16th, 2009
Maybe what the wife is say is that Alan leaves her completely alone most of the time. My ex-Ice Queen would have been delighted with that.
Lynn David
April 16th, 2009
Ah… .that old bugaboo… how do you define change.
William
April 17th, 2009
I don’t think that you can expect Alan to tell the truth now. He’s far too deeply entrenched in the quagmire of dishonesty and self-deception on which he’s built a whole persona – indeed, a whole career. He’s more likely to spend the rest of his life digging himself even further in.
Rev Ray Neal
April 17th, 2009
Alan doesn’t tell the truth. Sure he may have made a decision to bury his same-sex urges and live a life-style of denial, but that doesn’t mean he no longer has same-sex desires. I’ve been through the Southern Baptist condemnation and commands to change and found it did nothing but make me depressed and miserable. Only by accepting myself as God created me have I been able to live an honest, Christian life. Yes, I’m gay, Christian, and an ordained minister!
Ephilei
April 17th, 2009
Chambers didn’t consumate his marriage for nine months? His kids are adopted? I can’t believe that isn’t emphasized more. I’m asexual, and I even I know to put the penis in the vagina. Sheesh.
Johnson
April 17th, 2009
It all boils down to one thing: MONEY. There is good money to be made heading up these anti-gay organizations (or at least was, before the recession). Over at Pams House Blend, there’s an article showing how much money Peter LaBarbera took in from the Illinois Family Institute, and it was not a small token salary.
Grace
October 28th, 2009
umm…regardless of what anyone feels Alen Chamber’s “agenda” is, you are remiss to overlook this fact:
Alen is a man. I repeat, a man. And his wife is a woman (do I need to say it again for it to sink in?)
A lesson in biology for you: men are attracted to women and women to men.
That’s how you got here (hello)! And that’s how EVERY single human being arrived on this earth, EVER!! It’s called LIFE! Beautiful LIFE. Even invitro (new to mankind) combines the sperm of a man and the egg of a woman.
So, agenda’s aside, for those of you who try to claim that Alen and those like him are merely repressing their true self. Hogwash!
Repress THAT!
Why is it that you are so bent on denying people who have struggled with homosexuality the normalicy of experiencing what they REEEEALLY are–men and women!
If and when they attempt to–or genuinely–experience it (yes it’s possible, imagine that! Wow!) you call it denial and repression.
Perhaps ya’ll have some agenda’s of your own.
Priya Lynn
October 28th, 2009
Grace, no gay or lesbian is denying anyone the normalcy of being male or female. Gays and lesbians are males and females and perfectly normal.
We’re all well aware that most men are attracted to women and most women to men. Here’s a biology lesson for you:
Some men and some women are attracted to their own sex.
Fact of life, deal with it. Your hating the truth won’t change it.
Timothy Kincaid
October 28th, 2009
Grace,
You are mistaken. It simply isn’t true that “men are attracted to women and women to men.”
Indeed, the entire ex-gay ministry is based on the knowledges that some men are not attracted to women at all but, rather, are attracted to other men. And the same is true with some women.
It is offensive not only to gay men and women but also to ex-gays who struggle so hard and are so seldom successful to try and fit what you so callously declare to be true.
You are cruel, grace, to dismiss these people with an opinion that is uneducated and uninformed. Sadly, you do not live up to your name. You have no grace; only arrogance, anger, hostility, and pride. May God have pity on you.
Grace
November 14th, 2009
I am cruel dismiss something?
But I never dismissed anything nor mentioned anything about denying homosexuals anything.
I was only refering to Alen Chambers, and others like him, wanting to be with someone of the opposite sex. It seems gays are bent on denying them that.
When they try they are met with accusations of lying about their true identity, and represson, etc.
My only point was how highly illogical that is.
And quite frankly, gays have launched the same attack on the ex-gay ministry that they claim ex-gay ministry has attacked on them.
Why is it hard to accept that some people who struggle with homosexuality want to tap into their true selves as men and women?
Why must they be met with accusations of being “fakes”.
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