Miss California Executive Director Quits

Timothy Kincaid

May 13th, 2009

Moakler is the one that doesn't look like a drag queen

Moakler is the one that doesn't look like a drag queen

Shanna Moakler is not pleased with the decision by Donald Trump to let Carrie Prejean keep her title as Miss California USA. She believed that when pictures surfaced that proved that Prejean had lied about posing topless and when Prejean cut off all contact with the Miss California Pageant in order to engage in a devisive anti-gay campaign that she was no longer able to carry out her duties.

Donald Trump disagreed. Approaching the controversy from a businessman-owner’s perspective, he was less concerned about role-models and pageantry and more interested in whether Prejean was beautiful (which he repeated several times) and with how the controversy impacted him.

Today Moakler decided she could no longer participate in an institution that undercut her efforts. She released a statement to US Magazine:

“I cannot with a clear conscious move forward supporting and promoting the Miss Universe Organization when I no longer believe in it, or the contracts I signed committing myself as a youth,” she continues. “I want to be a role model for young woman with high hopes of pageantry, but now feel it more important to be a role model for my children. I am sorry and hope I have not let any young supporters down but wish them the best of luck in fulfilling their dreams.”

Priya Lynn

May 13th, 2009

That move by Donald Trump just shows his total lack of integrity. Prejean wasn’t fullfilling her duties as Miss California and was ignoring attempts to contact her to rectify the situtation. By all rights she should have been fired – any average person would have been canned from their job if they had acted the same way. Trump must have been thinking with his crotch.


May 13th, 2009

sad fn state of affairs.
We wish her the best.
Donald? principles?


May 13th, 2009

“Moakler is the one that doesn’t look like a drag queen” caption on the photograph.

Can’t we refrain from such remarks.


May 13th, 2009

I will further remark that Moakler is very nice looking ………. and, Prejean is giving a plastic beauty contestant smile. Moakler did the honorable thing and resigned.

Jason D

May 13th, 2009

swamp, if you know any drag queens, the idea with their makeup is loud, loud, loud. In many respects, drag artists are mocking the amount of forced beauty that straight men expect of real women.

Case in point: Carrie Prejean.


May 13th, 2009

The caption is used as a slur. I rest my case.

Jason D

May 13th, 2009

yeah, a slur against an overly-made up homophobe. Eeek.

David C.

May 13th, 2009

I suspect this is the classic clash of wills between an owner/boss and a subordinate. The principled Moakler Vs. the bottom-line focused businessman Trump.

Been there, done that, got the coffee cup, and T-shirt.


May 13th, 2009

Perhaps the Donald is actually being quite shrewd here. Had he fired her, Carrie and her new handlers could claim martyrdom at the hands of the gay maffia or some such distortion of the facts. However, by basically forcing her to honor her pageant duties, he takes away her ability to play the martyr. Now, if she continues to act as she has been – ignoring pageant officials, joining political causes, etc, he can fire her and not look bad doing so and she can’t claim it was because of the evil gays or that she is being punished. It will be because she isn’t doing her job. Donald is a shrewd business man to be sure and I’m sure he thought this through. Carrie not getting canned now is actually better for everyone *except* Carrie and the anti-equality crowd that wanted to use her.


May 14th, 2009

Desiree makes a very good point. Injuring Carrie would have made her talking points stronger (even for being less correct).

Didn’t Moakler also post nude, violating her contract? If the org was playing by their own rules, they’d have fired both of them.


May 14th, 2009

I think Trump is doing the socially and politically smart thing, too. Ms. Prejean is going supernova- selfdestructing in the public eye- and he’d be a fool to make himself a party to it. He’s letting her disqualify and degrade herself in the public eye, not giving her and her supporters a target to blame and attack.

Ms. Moakler…it seems to me this is a final straw kind of thing internal to the beauty pageant biz and culture. It’s not that the pageants are passé in the American public mind, yet. But there is a change of some kind in American culture, such that pageant contestants are no longer given quite the iconic status they once were. The public is no longer so willfully overlooking the messy and ugly sides of what goes on.


May 14th, 2009

“yeah, a slur against an overly-made up homophobe. Eeek”

I believe the issue is that drag queen is being used as a slur. It’s the same reason it’s inappropriate to say something like “That movie was so gay!”

I echo swampfox’s statement: “Can’t we refrain from such remarks.”

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