FotF’s Fictional Fears

Timothy Kincaid

June 4th, 2009

Responding to New Hampshire’s marriage equality bills which also expressly protect religious freedoms, Focus on the Family had the following to say:

“While the debate over the lack of religious-liberty protections revealed the dangers to the First Amendment rights of citizens, the language added to the bill is pitifully ineffective,” he said. “Not only will the law create family situations where children will be deprived of either a mother or a father, but citizens are being deprived of significant First Amendment rights, as well.”

Under similar statutes, Christian business owners and churches have been forced to violate their religious beliefs.

No. They haven’t.

Only two other states have similar statutes: Connecticut and Vermont; and in Vermont, same sex marriages won’t be effective until September. And I am perfectly confident in stating that there are NO INSTANCES in Connecticut in which Christian business owners or churches have been forced to violate their religious beliefs.

So don’t look down FotF, but your pants are on fire.


June 4th, 2009

Focus On The Fiction


June 4th, 2009

It is so laughable that these anti-gay groups like American Family Association and Focus on the Family never have anything to do with FAMILY.

I would just think if a group was all about the family they might talk about it more, instead of focusing on THE GAY!

Lindoro Almaviva

June 4th, 2009

LOL! that is the best description of FoF that I have ever heard.

Regan DuCasse

June 4th, 2009

They must REALLY count on whoever they are addressing to be THAT stupid!

I mean seriously?

“Children being deprived of a mother an father.”

“Ineffective’ first amendment rights protection?

When, when WHEN are they going to get that: children are not a requisite to qualify to marry?

Single parents are a fact of life (for whatever reason, so therefore these children sometimes don’t have a mother or father either? It’s not ILLEGAL or even IMMORAL to be a single parent.

So that stupid ‘deprivation’ angle is so much BS.
Especially when they are complaining about ‘effective’ enough rights?
How DO they define ‘effective’ on THEIR terms?

What do they call it when heterosexuals don’t meet their religious criteria either?


June 5th, 2009

If they’re concerned about people being deprived of First Amendment rights they can file a federal lawsuit. “First Amendment rights” don’t need statutory protection in state law, the First Amendment (along with the Fourteenth Amendment) itself is what guarantees those rights…


June 5th, 2009

I guess this is evidence that their true religion is much more about hammering people for their sexual/romantic choices than anything else.

Regan, I think single parents would be next for them.

Ben in Oakland

June 5th, 2009

Ya think that maybe they’re starting to believe their own propaganda?

Thomas Kraemer

June 5th, 2009

I think Focus on the Family means Christian business owners will be required to give married gay employees the equal rights enjoyed by those “opposite married” employees when they say “Under similar statutes, Christian business owners and churches have been forced to violate their religious beliefs.”

In other words, Christians can discriminate against anybody who disagrees with their theocratic policies, such as Jews and gays.


June 6th, 2009

Thank you, Regan, for taking care of the “deprived of a mother or father” song and dance. And expounding on what Thomas said:

“but citizens are being deprived of significant First Amendment rights, as well.”

Under similar statutes, Christian business owners and churches have been forced to violate their religious beliefs.

First Amendment, paraphrased:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

If supremacism is ones religion, then treating gay Americans (or Jews, or atheists) as equals, would be a violation of their religious expression. Not unlike the implications of the KKK’s belief “that the United States of America was founded as a white Christian nation”

Putting responsibility for the genocide of Native Americans squarely at the feet of God.

Just like any negative effects that their religious beliefs discrimination may have on us.

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